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post #91 of 205 Old 10-21-2015, 08:45 AM
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Ooooops ... maybe the 'science' isn't so settled after all. Or, maybe the evil oil companies are behind all these groups.

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We learned in our Environmental Science Class last week that sea level change is farse.

Ever fill a glass with ice then fill it with water to the very rim. What happens to the 'water level' after all the ice is melted? Same deal with the Arctic Ocean, Ice floating in water.

Antarctica is a continent, and while it is snow covered, it is not a mass of ice like the Arctic Ocean.
Agree. Agree. Agree. Not to mention, have these fools never heard of the water cycle? I learned it in grade two.

The genuine issue with the so-called "climate change" argument, in my scientific opinion, is that like any system that has been in place and changing for millions of years, it is N O N S E N S E to look at a tiny time span (50,000 years for instance) and try to determine what it means. You have to look at the big picture, and we pathetic tiny worthless humans can't possibly do that with our (a) measly life span and our (b) inability to record information. Tiny brains (for some) don't help either.

Climate change? I ask all the self-appointed experts this exact question to shut them up: Can you demonstrate this is not supposed to happen, that it has not happened 200x before? Because they cannot, their argument is ended.

I sometimes use this analogy to demonstrate how nuts "climate change" is: You arrive home, and the floor in front of your favourite window is cold underfoot, does that mean the heating power of the Sun has been somehow extinguished? See how you can't possibly make a definitive assessment with no appreciation for the bigger picture.

Here's what the theorists chant "Oh my God, the Sun has burned out!" or "We need to reduce or reuse or something, we have to make a difference, we are people, we did this! We killed the Sun! We killed the Sun! WE KILLED THE SUUUUUUUUUUUN!"

Or it's been cloudy, like some of the reasoning that got us talking about this.

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When the climate computer models assume the earth is a flat round plate with a constant solar input, you have one big reason for every model failing.

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One thing I rarely see mentioned is the simple fact that the rate of heat transfer between two locations is affected by the temperature difference between the two locations.

Earth gets hotter, rate of heat transfer to the colder area surrounding Earth increases. Basic thermodynamics.

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Shortly after June 21, every year, I start freaking out ... the days begin getting progressively shorter and I just know humanity is doomed to eternal darkness.

And then, voila, presto, bingo, December 22 arrives, and all is okay again.
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Shortly after June 21, every year, I start freaking out ... the days begin getting progressively shorter and I just know humanity is doomed to eternal darkness.

And then, voila, presto, bingo, December 22 arrives, and all is okay again.
You have the makings of a true believer in man made global warming.

Too many times people find correlation and do what it takes to conclude causation.

The global warming believers are modern day dirt worshipers. Mother Earth types who deny Genesis 1:1.

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Just saw a bumper sticker:

"I Vote Pro-Climate".

So I guess we're Anti-Climate? What the **** does that mean? Do these people even think?

Climate is the long-term pattern of weather in a particular area.
The Climate of a location is affected by its latitude, terrain, and altitude, as well as nearby water bodies and their currents.

I once saw a protester holding a sign, "Who Needs Oil - I Ride The Bus".

They're just stubborn. They accepted a position that sounded good and no matter what they're sticking with it. It's a religion.

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Always interesting to look at the carbon footprint of global warming believers.

Dwelling Size
Vehicle Ownership & Use
Product Purchases - Wrapped - Transported - Manufactured
Personal Energy Use - A/C - Use of lights - Cooking

Oh, they say they plant trees to offset their carbon use.....

If you live in a dwelling more than a tiny house, own more than one vehicle (which should be electric) which is used more than walking or a bicycle, buy products manufactured around the world, and have A/C and illuminate your dwelling at night with power you haven't saved from your own solar cells, well then you are a hypocrite.

But then, there wouldn't be any true believers here on this forum anyway. To be here requires the use of equipment which is the result of mining and hydrocarbons. Even being on this forum, especially if they engage in the high carbon footprint of motorcycling (manufacture, transport and use of deadly fossil fuels). No, true believers would be in their tiny house spinning their own homegrown hemp into cloth, tending their own garden and caring for their own waste water recycling, composting toilet and solar energy production.

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I frequently see statement from environuts, usually during "polar vortexes" about 'deniers inability to differentiate between the weather and climate change', but never once have those bozos managed to explain how "climate change" CAN occur without "changing the weather".

I guess it takes a special kind of mental crippling to state global warming is happening even though it's getting colder.
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Just to be clear, there is "Climate Change". For instance, the waters off Cape Cod have gotten more warm water fish , then seal, then Great white shark over the last 20 years. Species that like the warmth have moved further up the coast from the Continental shelf off new jersey, an our Lobster have gone further north.

I am not saying it is all human produced, but the 'real' facts can easily be read (without weird modeling) that some kind of warming is happening off our coast. This is just a small picture, both in window of time and geographic location. I work with 'real' scientists studying the fish (predominately for the Sea Scallop Industry), I personally am not one, but I get to map their raw results as the Geographical Information Systems guy.

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