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post #1 of 21 Old 10-19-2016, 02:58 AM Thread Starter
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Shifting technique

New K1600 rider here. I notice that the gear box is very clunky. Although it does not have trouble shifting, it is very noisy. Is this normal?

Also, I notice that the rpm falls very quickly when pulling in the clutch. I have still not got the technique to catch the needle on its way down when up-shifting. The rev-matching also needs more work. How important is to rev match on the K1600 gear box?

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post #2 of 21 Old 10-19-2016, 03:49 AM
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Oh boy, use the search function `gearbox`and you get more opinions than you can handle. Speedshifting by preloading the shifter and just flicking the clutch does it for me. Be slow and be loud......................
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From first to second, "Preload" is the answer. Just a little pressure on the shifter before the change. From there on up keep the RPMs above 3500 and it will be as smooth as can be. 4,000 is ideal. Neutral to 1 or 2 is a clunk !
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post #4 of 21 Old 10-19-2016, 09:42 AM
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I got the quick shifter that is on this forum and don't even think about preload, blipping, flicking or anything else, any more. With that, it shifts like it should out of the box.

It's only $150 (pretty cheap farkle for this bike) and is the best money I have spent on this motorcycle. Just get it. You won't be sorry.
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I second what stanlholmes said! It is well worth the $150
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post #6 of 21 Old 10-19-2016, 06:16 PM
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I got the quick shifter that is on this forum and don't even think about preload, blipping, flicking or anything else, any more. With that, it shifts like it should out of the box.
I got into the habit of preloading before I got the short shift, so I've just continued to do it.
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I find it clunky from neutral at a stop sometimes.

Those coming from Harley's need to relearn shifting if that's all you're used to. As you know the clutch pull is way lighter on the K. You only need the slightest tug to disengage the clutch for shifting. It's almost just a thought (I'm thinking about shifting, apply very slight pressure on the clutch lever (1-3 mm pull, yes 1-3 mm, that's it) and shift). Smooth as silk when you get it right- very rewarding. You never need to pull the clutch lever all the way in as you did on your Harley.

I just re-read your post. If you're not coming from a Harley then please disregard all that stuff- don't know why I thought you said that. The slight pull is all you need. There is some noise but not sure what you're hearing.

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You could just buy a 2017 with shift assist!

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You could just buy a 2017 with shift assist!
A bit late for that call.
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I find it clunky from neutral at a stop sometimes.

Those coming from Harley's need to relearn shifting if that's all you're used to. As you know the clutch pull is way lighter on the K. You only need the slightest tug to disengage the clutch for shifting. It's almost just a thought (I'm thinking about shifting, apply very slight pressure on the clutch lever (1-3 mm pull, yes 1-3 mm, that's it) and shift). Smooth as silk when you get it right- very rewarding. You never need to pull the clutch lever all the way in as you did on your Harley.

I just re-read your post. If you're not coming from a Harley then please disregard all that stuff- don't know why I thought you said that. The slight pull is all you need. There is some noise but not sure what you're hearing.
Not a HD rider, but yes I am indeed pulling the clutch all the way in. But if you would be so kind to explain this to me mechanically, if the clutch disengages at say 3mm, why would there be the clunk if I pull in more? There should be virtually no mechanical connection post 3mm of pull. So as per my understanding, it should not matter if the clutch lever is pulled in more or not.
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