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post #21 of 84 Old 07-22-2019, 08:41 PM
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I recall a study that indicated that the only people who noticed hi-vis clothing on motorcyclists were other motorcyclists. I tried to find it online, but could not, so here is a study on hi-vis clothing on bicyclists that indicates that hi-vis clothing may not be "all that". https://www.planetizen.com/news/2018...on-bike-safety

After 44 years of riding, my experience is that the rider makes his own best safety device. Ride defensively, always leave yourself an out, limit your exposure to potential hazards and just plain use your head. Hi-vis gear, loud pipes or a rolling light show will not save you if you ride like an a$$. Wear your safety gear always in case all your precautions fail.
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post #22 of 84 Old 07-22-2019, 08:51 PM
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I do everything possible to be scene by other drivers/riders. Hi viz Motoport jacket, white helmet
Photon blasters and a billy tail light, anything that increases your odds is a good thing in my book
And as B407driver says donít ride like a a$$
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post #23 of 84 Old 07-23-2019, 08:17 PM
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This is another one of those topics that gets resurrected every now and then. While wearing Hi-Vis clothing may make you feel better about being seen it really isn't that effective. People that are interested in motorcycles may see you with your Hi-Vis gear on but that's about it. Go out in a cage with someone that has no vested interest in motorcycling and pass a few riders wearing Hi-Vis gear and ask them if they noticed anything? Few will notice the rider with Hi-Vis gear on and if they do it won't be at any appreciable greater distance. Ever wonder why so many law enforcement vehicles get run into when they are stopped on the side of the road with their emergency lights in operation? If those emergency lights aren't Hi-Vis I don't know what is!

Hi-Vis anything was the panacea to people getting hit at roadside construction zones, yet they still get hit wearing that stuff. In reality the Hi-Vis effect has worn off in most areas as it has become much too commonplace to see workers wearing these items. It's like almost anything else in life, the more you see it the less it attracts your attention and it just blends in with everything we gaze at in the world. I was forced to wear the Hi-Vis gear late in my law enforcement career and I hated it because it made me a target. Additionally, most every Hi-Vis piece of clothing I wore as a cop lasted about six months before it looked dirty and unprofessional and I could never get the stuff really clean. Plus when it gets dirty it loses its ability to be visible. And when you think of it, how much Hi-Vis gear is really visible when you are riding towards someone? Just another great idea that has little merit in a motoring society that is more concerned with looking at their GPS unit or cell phone. Wear it if you will, but I will stick with good defensive riding habits and trust that no one really sees me.

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post #24 of 84 Old 07-23-2019, 08:23 PM
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Makes you too easy to spot when running from the law.
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post #25 of 84 Old 07-23-2019, 08:25 PM
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No I Vis for me. Like my bike, i gotta like how it looks. Just being honest. Don't put anyone down for using high vis, personal choice.

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post #26 of 84 Old 07-23-2019, 11:53 PM
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My wife and I wear hi-viz. We've gotten a lot of comments on how we stand out -- which I think it a good thing.

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post #27 of 84 Old 07-24-2019, 12:07 AM
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I wear a Hi-Viz yellow Aerostich Roadcrafter suit with a Hi-Viz yellow Helite Turtle airbag vest and a Hi-Viz yellow Schuberth C4 helmet. I have over 30,000 lumens of Clearwater Erica and Darla to the front and then really annoying Billie Brake light and Skene brake and turn lights.

All my Clearwater lights strobe when I hit the 110db Nautilus horn.

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Hi-Viz works when people are attentive with their driving, but not when surrounded by texting and other distracted driving routines. I do have some myself, and have noticed some things that seem to correlate when I have it on. Mainly, when slabbing it, it seems to draw people to tailgate, no matter how fast you are going or what lane you are using, I almost always end up with somebody too close to me, compared to when I am not wearing it. Like a moth to the flame. But I agree with everyone that it does not replace your own street savvy to recognize potential dangers and act preventatively before reacting instinctively... and when you do have to react, having the experience and training to respond appropriately to the situation.

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post #29 of 84 Old 07-24-2019, 02:30 AM
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Dark or light colored gear? Does the hi-viz gear work like an off white color for staying cool? Functionality is my pick for color. Most of the year it is cool temperatures above the 45th parallel, dark colors are warmer.
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post #30 of 84 Old 07-24-2019, 06:55 AM
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I'm a believer in reflective gear - stripes/panels etc. & always have significant high-viz & reflective areas on my helmet.

However I remain unconvinced about full high-viz - some say there is just too much of it around, so it melts into the background, others suggest that it cannot be seen clearly when a bike like the K16 is approaching anyway. A fair question I reckon if you look at a GTL rider from either front or rear; OK not side-on.

Each to their own I guess. We all develop a 6th sense when riding but nothing protects us from the careless inattentive phone zombies or the speeding tailgating specialists who never observe the 2 second rule. Perhaps autonomous vehicles aren't such a bad idea after all. Intelligent speed limiters on new cars are due for Europe in a few years time & the vehicle will then judge the appropriate distance at which to follow others too - a step on from, but similar to say Mercedes Distronic +.
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