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post #1 of 17 Old 10-03-2017, 12:30 PM Thread Starter
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Ask MO Anything: Is Clutchless Shifting Bad For My Transmission?



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Yes, itís all true. Well, it kind of depends on your bike. Some motorcycles with great big flywheels and big gears, like many Harleys and some BMW Boxers, need the clutch Ė or at least a little clutch Ė for nearly every shift. Most sportbikes only need you to use the clutch to pull away from stops and for the shift from first to second gear.

At slow, around-town speeds, we mostly use at least a little clutch to shift anyway; you donít need to pull the lever all the way in every time you use it. But if youíre steadily accelerating, and especially at WOT (wide open throttle), youíll find that after second gear, if you roll the throttle closed just enough to unload the driveline, for just a split second, with your toe pressing on the lever, then third gear will slip right in without using the clutch at all. Fourth, 5th and 6th will slip in even easier since the gaps between them are increasingly smaller. Done smoothly, itís no harder on your gearbox than using the clutch.
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post #2 of 17 Old 11-25-2017, 11:35 PM
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Can the quick shifter be to the K1600?
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post #3 of 17 Old 11-26-2017, 03:26 AM
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Can the quick shifter be to the K1600?
Later K's could be installed with shift assist, I don't think it can be retrofitted to earlier bikes that wern't designed that way

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Chop96 (Greg) has installed a third party, quick shift kit on his bike.

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Hey Chop96, can you chim in here. I have a 2014 GT Sport and would love to add a quick shift if possible. Who are the people that make them? Thanks..

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@GordieT Greg is on vacation in Dubai, returns home tomorrow.

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Recently bought k1600 GTLE, 2012, and Iím sure it has gear shift pro, but how can I be sure?

Also, the clutch bites when it is nearly fully out, with only 24k miles. Is there any adjustment on these hydrolic clutches?
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post #8 of 17 Old 02-01-2018, 11:20 AM
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worn clutch?

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Recently bought k1600 GTLE, 2012, and Iím sure it has gear shift pro, but how can I be sure?

Also, the clutch bites when it is nearly fully out, with only 24k miles. Is there any adjustment on these hydrolic clutches?
as an automotive tech for over 50 years, on a car when the clutch releases out near the end, that always meant the clutch is nearing the end of it's life.
I don't know if that's true on the k1600, but would like some feedback as well.
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post #9 of 17 Old 02-15-2018, 12:01 PM
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Hydraulic clutches are self-adjusting (cannot adjust). Most have the engagement near the end of the travel and is not an indication of wear.
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post #10 of 17 Old 12-29-2018, 07:09 PM
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My 2018 GTL has the Quick Shifter fitted from new. It’s very smooth other than if you fade the revs from first to second just as you accelerate away - then the bike stands on its nose I find.

Gear changes down are very smooth I find.

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