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post #1 of 9 Old 02-09-2017, 02:15 AM Thread Starter
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Start / Stop rocker switch issue - help

Ok, today out of the blue, I went to start the bike and the red switch seemed to be jammed... didn't want to move either to start or stop. I was basically stuck at the location I went to.. I gave it a vert firm push and it went to the start position but it seemed to be very stiff (duh!)... anyway, when I went to stop later at home, the switch then stayed in the stayed in the stop position ... I don't recall, is this normal? isn't the switch automatically supposed to go to the neutral position after you select stop?

Do I need to contact my dealer and get it changed out?

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Mine stuck in the cold a few times.

I'd let your dealer know about it, and get it changed under warranty before it leaves you stranded somewhere.
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Mine went out after a few months. Take a Torx 8 I think with you and you can take the cover off and that gets you to the micro switch. This allows you to start/stop the bike. Don't ask me how I know
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Get it to the dealer for a new switch

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Perhaps hijacking thread but this made me wonder...
How do people 'turn off' the bike?
I never use the 'stop' switch and heard from a local BMW guy that using it prevents computers from shutting down properly.
Any truth to that?
Using key to shut it down better or no difference either way?
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, the switch then stayed in the stayed in the stop position ... I don't recall, is this normal? isn't the switch automatically supposed to go to the neutral position after you select stop?
My switch stays in the stop position until manually moving it. It will spring load into the neutral position after using the starter.


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Perhaps hijacking thread but this made me wonder...
How do people 'turn off' the bike?
I never use the 'stop' switch and heard from a local BMW guy that using it prevents computers from shutting down properly.
Any truth to that?
Using key to shut it down better or no difference either way?
I was taught years ago in a MSF course to shut down with the kill switch. The reason given was to enable the rider to maintain control of the bike with both hands on the bars until the motor was off. It was simply a safety rule. Functionally the only difference is that the power is still being supplied to the bikes electronics directly from the battery. Not a big deal when your next step is to turn off the key. On a keyless ride, however, it's easy to forget that and simply walk away with the bike left on....draining the battery. I got into the habit of using the ignition to shut down for that reason. I don't think there is any negative impact to the bikes electronics either way. BMW refers to the switch as "Emergency Kill" so, I would think that using the key/ignition to shut down under normal conditions is perfectly ok.

As to the OP of this post, mine also stays in the off position until the starter is again pressed then it returns to neutral.
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My switch stays in the stop position until manually moving it. It will spring load into the neutral position after using the starter.

What is totally strange is I swear it didn't used to do that!! and now hearing you and the guy below have the same thing even further confuses me... I guess I'll take it in and see what they say.

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I was taught years ago in a MSF course to shut down with the kill switch. The reason given was to enable the rider to maintain control of the bike with both hands on the bars until the motor was off. It was simply a safety rule. Functionally the only difference is that the power is still being supplied to the bikes electronics directly from the battery. Not a big deal when your next step is to turn off the key. On a keyless ride, however, it's easy to forget that and simply walk away with the bike left on....draining the battery. I got into the habit of using the ignition to shut down for that reason. I don't think there is any negative impact to the bikes electronics either way. BMW refers to the switch as "Emergency Kill" so, I would think that using the key/ignition to shut down under normal conditions is perfectly ok.

As to the OP of this post, mine also stays in the off position until the starter is again pressed then it returns to neutral.
We always teach our students to NOT use the kill switch. Reason being that sure it shuts the engine off, but the bike's electrics are still on including your head light. Very easy, especially for new riders, to shut their bike off with the kill switch and walk away, then come back to a dead bike (with the key still in it). On more than one occasion I've come back from lunch only to have to bump start a student bike because they did this very thing. Only takes a few of those to make sure I now harp on them to turn their bikes off properly.

Personally I will use the key (can never go wrong with this) or sometimes drop the side stand down when in 1st gear (clutch in obviously). I guess it's what ever you get used too.
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