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post #21 of 109 Old 06-10-2019, 07:32 PM
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FWIW, I only had to see that button once...turned them on, and never turned them off.
Well ya have a point there....
Ill go along with you on the fog light button.

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BMW Layout of the handle bar controls is superb in its logic and simplicity. The wonder wheel supports several functions that eliminate the need fOR additional mechanical controls unlike think Goldwing. The horn and the high beam flasher are opposed to each other so that you can use them easily simultaneously in an emergency. This is a great example of functional design when you care to explore it.
For me backlight buttons dont add functionality but increase distraction during night rides. If I have to look for a visual clue as to the buttons location and function I did not spend enough time to get to know my bike.
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And your claim that we need backlit buttons (written in capital letters) is a bit condescending.
Yeah, i pulled the fuse in my car....No more distracting dash or button lights for me.
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You can use the Mode button to select a new mode while moving, pull in the clutch and drop the revs to idle for a couple seconds while it switches modes, then just add revs and let out the clutch to be back to normal.
On my '12 there is no need to drop the revs to idle. Just for the fun of it, sometimes I switch betwen Rain and Dynamic between shifts (usually 2nd to 3rd) just to feel the difference between them in a dramatic fashion.

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BMW Layout of the handle bar controls is superb in its logic and simplicity. The wonder wheel supports several functions that eliminate the need fOR additional mechanical controls unlike think Goldwing. The horn and the high beam flasher are opposed to each other so that you can use them easily simultaneously in an emergency. This is a great example of functional design when you care to explore it.
For me backlight buttons don’t add functionality but increase distraction during night rides. If I have to look for a visual clue as to the buttons location and function I did not spend enough time to get to know my bike.
JMHO.

And your claim that we need backlit buttons (written in capital letters) is a bit condescending.
Yeah, i pulled the fuse in my car....No more distracting dash or button lights for me.

Haha. I mean right? Why wouldnt you?

Why stop there? Just shut of the back lit for the speedometer. You should know where your needle is at.

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Haha. I mean right? Why wouldnt you?

Why stop there? Just shut of the back lit for the speedometer. You should know where your needle is at.

Your sense of humor would benefit from a backlit button a lot. case closed for me.
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Bottom line, if you need backlit buttons that means, first you don't know where the buttons are and second you are taking your eyes off the road to stare and tiny lit letters to find and then use the button...while not looking at the road.

Just learn where the buttons are and sure them by memory and not sight while riding or pull over under a Street lamp.

Sheesh I mean really is this what this forum has boiled down too?

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If Triumph can do backlit switchgear on the $18k Explorer, there is no reason why BMW couldn't do it on the $30k K16. All the excuses are just that - excuses.

Is it absolutely needed? Of course not. Neither is central locking, keyless ignition, cruise control, shift assist, hillstart assist, traction control, ABS, reverse gear, etc., etc., etc., etc.


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Yeah, i pulled the fuse in my car....No more distracting dash or button lights for me.
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If Triumph can do backlit switchgear on the $18k Explorer, there is no reason why BMW couldn't do it on the $30k K16. All the excuses are just that - excuses.

Is it absolutely needed? Of course not. Neither is central locking, keyless ignition, cruise control, shift assist, hillstart assist, traction control, ABS, reverse gear, etc., etc., etc., etc.




This is exactly my point thank you , Volfy


And on a side note im sure there's tons of Geico, progressive reports stating the motorcycle crash was do to the shiny green buttons on my handle bars

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Whether or not the shiny backlit buttons would be distracting or not, there is no doubt that having their location and operation integrated into muscle memory is better than having to look and read text (TEXT!!!) while rocketing down the road in the dark. To put it another way, at 70MPH you are covering ~100fps and in the time it takes you to read and understand the button (the first few times anyhow) you will be covering somewhere between 60 and 100 feet of braking distance/reaction time. (just sayin') I was being serious when I said that all of this should be voice controlled. There is little on those buttons or in those menus that would be dangerous to have voice controlled and for the few things that are, keep them out of my prying fingers anyhow. Siri/Alexa/Cardo are all illustrative that it can work quite well and be relatively inexpensive, and... as a byproduct we can lose a lot of wiring/assembly complexity/fragility in the process.
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