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post #1 of 45 Old 07-22-2019, 06:27 PM Thread Starter
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IBA question.

I just read the "five steps" on the IBA website, Saddlesore 1000, Bun Burner 1500. Association based in Chicago, IL. This is the REAL DEAL, correct?


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www.ironbutt.com is one of the websites. It's down right now do to the recently completed 11 day rally.
www.ironbutt.org/rides is up and lists most of the recognized rides.


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www.ironbutt.com is one of the websites. It's down right now do to the recently completed 11 day rally.
www.ironbutt.org/rides is up and lists most of the recognized rides.

Thanks. I had no idea the rules allow you to do this thing solo, pick your own route, etc. Gives the rider lots of latitude yet holds them accountable!! Perfect.

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Like Arizona Jim said, start here: Iron Butt Rides

Then go here: How to safely and successfully ride 1,000 miles in 24 hours or less

And if you're still bored, then read this: 2019 Iron Butt Rally Daily Reports

And this: 2019 Iron Butt Rally Megathread

Then come back if you have any questions.

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Might want to peruse this as well:http://www.ironbuttrally.com/tech/aowprintout.cfm


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Like Arizona Jim said, start here: Iron Butt Rides



Then go here: How to safely and successfully ride 1,000 miles in 24 hours or less



And if you're still bored, then read this: 2019 Iron Butt Rally Daily Reports



And this: 2019 Iron Butt Rally Megathread



Then come back if you have any questions.
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Thanks. I had no idea the rules allow you to do this thing solo, pick your own route, etc. Gives the rider lots of latitude yet holds them accountable!! Perfect.
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Like Arizona Jim said, start here: Iron Butt Rides

Then go here: How to safely and successfully ride 1,000 miles in 24 hours or less

And if you're still bored, then read this: 2019 Iron Butt Rally Daily Reports

And this: 2019 Iron Butt Rally Megathread

Then come back if you have any questions.

Great stuff, read most of it including link from BMWGuy. I got the itch to accomplish this SS1000. Not even close to the experience as some riders on this forum, but I have done many 500-600 mile days; one recently in 8 hours employing some of the techniques I have just read about. That's what got me thinking I could go for it. Staying with a familiar route I think will also help, especially at night.


My only question for those that have done this...hotel or no hotel...to push through or not to push through...?? IDK...what a horrible problem!!

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Leave before daybreak and ride all day getting to your destination in the evening. With our K1600s you can get better than 200 miles on a tank, making 4 stops along the way and arriving looking for a fill up. Averaging 50 mph means 1000 miles in 20 hours. No need to break speed limits but go the slab routes as curves slow you down. I've only though about how I would do it. Can't consider it currently with my back problems. Go while you're healthy, avoid the heat, keep hydrated, lay off caffeine and take plenty of snacks.

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You can do a 1000 mile ride in 15 hours with a stock tank and efficient fuel stops. Manage from that baseline. Honestly it isn't as hard a ride as you may think.

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That's what got me thinking I could go for it.
Well I believe you can do it, if you stay smart and focused.

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Staying with a familiar route I think will also help, especially at night.
Familiarity is good, as long as you don't get bored.

Sunrise (6 am) to sunset (8 pm) is 14 hours now. So if you start early enough, you can get the bulk of your ride in before worrying about darkness.

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My only question for those that have done this...hotel or no hotel...to push through or not to push through...??
I'd say plan for no hotel, but pay attention to your fatigue and get a hotel if you get to the point that you need one.

With modern motorcycles and large, well maintained highways, the bike will be fine, so it's you that will be the limiting factor. That limit might be worsened by dehydration or overall soreness, but really it will be fatigue.

Which is why you should read Don Arthur's excellent Fatigue and Motorcycle Touring paper now, and again the day before your ride.

Because unless you hit endless traffic or construction, or get a flat or lose a driveshaft or run out of gas, fatigue will be your ultimate limit.

My first SS1000 was Oregon to Orange County, right down I-5. I was maybe 100 miles and two hours out when I just got really tired and didn't feel safe to continue. So I grabbed a motel just north of the Grapevine and caught a few hours of good sleep.

Even though that put my last 100 miles through L.A. morning traffic, it was the right call to get the sleep I needed, and I still finished well inside the 24 hours.

After a bit more practice, I can easily knock out a thousand miles on a stock gas tank in ~15 hours including fuel and a brief food stop. If I'm in a hurry and have my aux tank mounted, I can do it in closer to 14 hours on good roads at highway speeds, still keeping it within 5-10 mph of the posted limits.

Same with my 50CC rides. I was hoping to start with a BBG 1,500 my first time west-to-east, but when I got to San Antonio at about 20 hours in I just needed to sleep. I still finished the ride in ~42 hours, with plenty of spare time left. My second time was east-to-west, stopping only for fuel once every 350 miles. Even then, I needed a brief 20 minute rest area stop in El Paso, and still managed to complete the ride in ~35 hours.

The whole point is to push yourself and find your own limits, wherever they may be.

And to be safe about it, because while the official IBA certificate looks really cool up on the wall, a random piece of paper isn't worth pushing yourself beyond your own limits and thus doing something stupid to the bike, or to yourself.

Then come back here and tell us how it went.
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