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Center Stand... help!

Iíve had my GTL for a few weeks and am loving it. Iíve previously owned a K1200LT and loved it as well. Right or wrong, Iíd put the K1200 on the center stand and almost always sat on the bike and rocked it off. Again, right or wrong.

When I bought the GTL, the dealer went to great pains to show me the features of the bike, including how to put it on the center stand. That last part I knew, of course. He even showed me how to get it off the center stand, although I confess I wasnít paying too much attention at that point - I wanted to go ride.

So... Iíve been using the side stand exclusively. In my garage, when Iím parking, etc. Not because I was intimidated in putting it on the center stand - thatís pretty easy for me. Imagine my surprise, though, when I came out of the place I was in today after having put her on the center stand (really for the first time). I climbed on and tried to rock it off. No way was that gonna happen. Dang, I thought, Iím gonna have to take it off the center stand by myself, never really having done it before. Hmmm. But what if I drop it? That would suck. So I went and found a helper. I left the side stand down (good or bad thing?) and while I had a guy in the other side of the bike, I pretty much pulled it off the center stand.

Clearly I am gonna need more practice. Nothing went wrong today, but I still envision dropping it. Any hints/tips/best practices greatly appreciated.
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I would advise you to never leave the side stand down when taking it off the center stand. Past that, it will become second nature after a few times doing it.
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Just a hard rock gets it to roll off for me. Getting it back up is more of a chore, especially when loaded (me or the bike).
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I rock-off my GT with no side stand.
I use a Park-and-Move dolly, to get the bike off the center stand, I pull it, with the side stand out. I want to make sure, I don't drop it...

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I would advise you to never leave the side stand down when taking it off the center stand. Past that, it will become second nature after a few times doing it.
And I'd recommend always leaving the side stand down before rocking the bike off the center stand. If for some reason you lost your balance just pull the bike in your direction and the side stand will catch it. I'm 'assuming' you're not sitting on the bike but are standing on the left side.

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Perhaps you parked on a slight uphill grade and that's why it was hard to rock it off the center stand. I usually only use mine in my garage on a flat floor and although a little hard to do I can rock it off the center stand, when empty. Harder with full luggage and trunk.
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I always put the side stand down when taking the bike off the center stand, I am too short to rock it off the stand with me on the bike. I stand on the left side of the bike facing the seat with my right hand on the pillion grab handle and the left hand the left bar grip, clutch in, bike in first gear. I just pull the bike forward, up and slightly toward me. When it rolls forward off the stand, I release the clutch and let the bike settle into the side stand. I have over 80,000 miles on a k1600 and have never dropped one this way.
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Seems to be opposing opinions on whether the sidestand is down or up when removing the bike from the centerstand. I agree with Gunnert and with his supporting argument. However, I would like to understand the opposing view.


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Iíve had my GTL for a few weeks and am loving it. Iíve previously owned a K1200LT and loved it as well. Right or wrong, Iíd put the K1200 on the center stand and almost always sat on the bike and rocked it off. Again, right or wrong.

When I bought the GTL, the dealer went to great pains to show me the features of the bike, including how to put it on the center stand. That last part I knew, of course. He even showed me how to get it off the center stand, although I confess I wasnít paying too much attention at that point - I wanted to go ride.

So... Iíve been using the side stand exclusively. In my garage, when Iím parking, etc. Not because I was intimidated in putting it on the center stand - thatís pretty easy for me. Imagine my surprise, though, when I came out of the place I was in today after having put her on the center stand (really for the first time). I climbed on and tried to rock it off. No way was that gonna happen. Dang, I thought, Iím gonna have to take it off the center stand by myself, never really having done it before. Hmmm. But what if I drop it? That would suck. So I went and found a helper. I left the side stand down (good or bad thing?) and while I had a guy in the other side of the bike, I pretty much pulled it off the center stand.

Clearly I am gonna need more practice. Nothing went wrong today, but I still envision dropping it. Any hints/tips/best practices greatly appreciated.
if you can get it up, you can get it down. Put the side stand down so that you don't have to do it while trying to hold the bike upright. On level ground when you pull it forward to get it off the center stand it will settle down on the suspension vertically and if you are keeping it vertical when it does you can lay it on the side stand without a bit of trouble.
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Not sure side stand down would give me that much more safety assurance. Even with my short legs, losing my balance kicking the bike off center stand is exceedingly unlikely. In all my yrs of riding, I can't recall ever come close to losing it like that. Other scenarios, oh yeah... but not rocking off the CT. I've ridden plenty of bikes where I'm tippy toe on both sides. Heck, some of my bikes perched on the CT basically left my feet dangling in the air. IMO, safety comes more in the technique and paying attention to the ground traction near the bike.

Anyhow... if I do lose my balance, going to the left side is 50/50 chance. Now, I do grab the front brake whole rocking the bike off CT to limit the amount of forward movement, but... the bike still has a good chance of rolling a bit forward right after rocking my bike off CT, which tend to swipe the side stand rearward and UP. So a very small % x 50% x some % the bike is standing still enough for the side stand to catch the bike = a very small %.

Realistically, being that my legs are short and need to head straight down to contact terra firma, the down side stand is quite often in the way of my left foot and more likely to cause me problem than it might help. Your long shanks with telescoping legs that strut out like 45deg outriggers won't be bothered by the side stand, but then again... you should be far less likely to complain of stability problems, no?

Not arguing one way or another on this one. Just relating my own experience. I'd say... do whichever way suit you better.

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