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post #1 of 37 Old 11-03-2019, 06:06 PM Thread Starter
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Hi All,
New here and looking for information on the GTL. I currently ride a 2009 Victory Vision, with cams and tune I'm running 119 HP 117 lb ft, with some other mods. Anyway, reading on the GTL as my next bike, probably sometime next year when I can afford it.

Saw several issues while reading up on the GTL, there were several complaints about the bike tracking left and if not under constant control the bike would wonder.

How often should the valves be checked/adjusted?

How much is the service manual for a GTL? Can they be bought besides from the dealers?

Is there any hope for the stereo system or should I plan on going bluetooth exclusively?

What are somethings I need to look out for? Service issues? What's considered high mileage?

What mods can be done to the bike? Power? Comfort /seats? Electronics? Is there even a need to?

Currently, I'm looking at a 2018 White GTL but it will probably be sold by the time I pull the trigger. Forgive all the questions, however I need to be informed before I buy so as to enjoy every mile like I have out of my 2 Visions....
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post #2 of 37 Old 11-03-2019, 06:20 PM
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All of your questions have been thoroughly discussed on the forum. You'll be glad to know the forum has a search feature. At the top of the page select "tools", then select "advanced search", then type in what you're looking for.

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All of your questions have been thoroughly discussed on the forum. You'll be glad to know the forum has a search feature. At the top of the page select "tools", then select "advanced search", then type in what you're looking for.

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Thanks Duane, but I was looking to have conversations with people. I've been using the search engine for a while but somethings get so convoluted in threads where the topic changes half way through or aren't ever finalized..

But hey thanks for the suggestion!!
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Hi All,
New here and looking for information on the GTL. I currently ride a 2009 Victory Vision, with cams and tune I'm running 119 HP 117 lb ft, with some other mods. Anyway, reading on the GTL as my next bike, probably sometime next year when I can afford it.

Saw several issues while reading up on the GTL, there were several complaints about the bike tracking left and if not under constant control the bike would wonder.

How often should the valves be checked/adjusted?

How much is the service manual for a GTL? Can they be bought besides from the dealers?

Is there any hope for the stereo system or should I plan on going bluetooth exclusively?

What are somethings I need to look out for? Service issues? What's considered high mileage?

What mods can be done to the bike? Power? Comfort /seats? Electronics? Is there even a need to?

Currently, I'm looking at a 2018 White GTL but it will probably be sold by the time I pull the trigger. Forgive all the questions, however I need to be informed before I buy so as to enjoy every mile like I have out of my 2 Visions....
Some go left and others dont. Mine goes left but doesnt move so long as my hands are on the bars. It requires no counter steer to correct, i simply have to have my hands on the bars.

Book says valve checks are every 18k miles. My bike has 23k on it and I have yet to have it done. From all the reading I have done over the 5 years on this forum, its fairly rare a valve needs shimmed.

Oil and air filter as well as final drive lube change information can be found right here on the forum. Whats a service manual?

Bluetooth is the way to go regardless of how good the stereo is. The sound quality is so much better and if you use the right ear buds they protect your hearing as well.

Buy the newest bike you can afford. If your looking at 18 models, you should be GTG. These bikes have been fairly refined since about '14. We have members here that have eclipsed 100k miles on these bikes and they just keep going.

Windshields, seats etc are widely available as well as handlebar risers etc.. Russell Day Long is probably the most popular seat builder amongst the members here, I love mine. Bren Tune has a tuner for the bikes. The 18 and newer bikes seem to benefit from them as the throttle has been detuned from the older models. They offer stage 1 and 2 upgrades. Additional lighting can be handled with a Hex Ez-can or other auxiliary controller.

The only down side to these bikes are.. If ridden properly, they eat tires. I get about 6k miles out of a set. My current set... not so much Its a small price to pay for such a fun motorcycle to ride.

Life is short.. buy the damned motorcycle. You will love it!

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Darbinco,

Thanks for the response... Yeah, I found a thread regarding ear plugs/buds will be checking it out if the thread doesn't end abruptly!

Good to know mods and tuners are available, always like to get more performance although it doesn't sound like much is needed.

Yes, I'm very familiar with tires lasting about 6K, I used to run Avon Cobras on my Vision and would go through them all the time about 5 to 6K. I like to ride aggressively and have actually passed several crotch rockets on the Dragon and Cherohala Skyway...Especially when I had a fresh set of Cobras on...

Thanks about the de-tuning on the 18 and newer models hadn't seen that everywhere else! good info!!
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re: service manuals, I believe i've seen on this forum discussions of the manual being available on CD, and I think there are some third parties selling them. I have not seen anyone like Clymer, Haynes, or any of the other major publications offer one, but I could be wrong. About a month ago, I inquired about an "owner's" manual from the local BMW dealership, and that was going to be like $75, IIRC, and at least a few weeks, if not longer, to get. Seems like I was told that would have to come from Germany. So, with that being the case, no telling what they'd want for a service manual, or how long it would take.

There is so much information on this forum, just like Darbinco said, you most likely could get by without a service manual, unless you're just looking for some new reading material to put you to sleep. With all due respect to Gunnert, I'm not in the least bit impressed with this website's search engine. It sucks just like the one over at the bmwlt.com forum- probably the same platform.

I always like the Visions, but the luggage capacity suffered greatly due to the styling, and then the Cross Country Tour came out, and I thought that was the bomb!

Welcome to the forum!

BTW, in 16 or 17, BMW offered the GTL with reverse, which is really sweet, especially if you're vertically challenged.


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re: service manuals, I believe i've seen on this forum discussions of the manual being available on CD, and I think there are some third parties selling them. I have not seen anyone like Clymer, Haynes, or any of the other major publications offer one, but I could be wrong. About a month ago, I inquired about an "owner's" manual from the local BMW dealership, and that was going to be like $75, IIRC, and at least a few weeks, if not longer, to get. Seems like I was told that would have to come from Germany. So, with that being the case, no telling what they'd want for a service manual, or how long it would take.

There is so much information on this forum, just like Darbinco said, you most likely could get by without a service manual, unless you're just looking for some new reading material to put you to sleep. With all due respect to Gunnert, I'm not in the least bit impressed with this website's search engine. It sucks just like the one over at the bmwlt.com forum- probably the same platform.

I always like the Visions, but the luggage capacity suffered greatly due to the styling, and then the Cross Country Tour came out, and I thought that was the bomb!

Welcome to the forum!


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Thanks, BikerJ! For the Service Manual I was thinking it would be needed to do odd service items. I have one for the Vision and it has saved me with torque specs, hidden screws, and some guidance. Good to know the forums are full of help and information, though!

I love my Vision as it's my second one, between the 2 I've racked up over 124,000 on them, agreed, the storage is horrible which I have remedied with a BigD rack, but it still problematic when I ride to work and need to put up my jacket and helmet, it just struggles.

Glad I found the forums and looking forward to buying a GTL, just got to save my pennies before I tell the wife I bought it!
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I ride a 2012 GTL. It tracks slightly left but I can ride hands free when I apply a little ďEnglishĒ to the seat. Mine came with a service manual. My bike has 69,000 mi. When I take it out for a ride, it runs and feels like a brand new machine. Based on everything Iíve read and learned on this forum, and I know Iím pushing it to the extreme, but Iíll be doing my very first valve check this winter. The stereo works ok if youíre below 50mph or so, say in the twisties; faster than that and Bluetooth is the way to go. As stated, I am approaching 70k mi.; engine still runs great and uses Ĺ quart of oil between changes just as when I bought it off the showroom floor with only 800 mi. (virtually new). I am riding my stock seat; fits me ok at 5í10Ē. Would like a Russel or a Corbin, but Iíve done 1,150 mi. in a day without a complaint. Iíll buy my Langlitz Leather jacket before a new seat. Plan on additional lighting both front and rear, for safety sake.
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Thanks, BikerJ! For the Service Manual I was thinking it would be needed to do odd service items. I have one for the Vision and it has saved me with torque specs, hidden screws, and some guidance. Good to know the forums are full of help and information, though!

I love my Vision as it's my second one, between the 2 I've racked up over 124,000 on them, agreed, the storage is horrible which I have remedied with a BigD rack, but it still problematic when I ride to work and need to put up my jacket and helmet, it just struggles.

Glad I found the forums and looking forward to buying a GTL, just got to save my pennies before I tell the wife I bought it!
I understand your desire for info. I don't know if the manuals are explicit enough to mention where all the fasteners are, such as for trim pieces. I never saw that in the various automobile service manuals, yet that's the one thing I could rarely figure out w/o prior experience when I was turning wrenches.

Someone here did an excellent job to provide quite a few torque specs, but I don't remember his username. Seems like his avatar has some maple leaves or some kind of tree leave. He has provided a wealth of info here.

Just tell your wife you took the Vision out and got it a face lift, and a new set of ****, and some butt injections (but make sure you hide the Vision).
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I understand your desire for info. I don't know if the manuals are explicit enough to mention where all the fasteners are, such as for trim pieces. I never saw that in the various automobile service manuals, yet that's the one thing I could rarely figure out w/o prior experience when I was turning wrenches.

Someone here did an excellent job to provide quite a few torque specs, but I don't remember his username. Seems like his avatar has some maple leaves or some kind of tree leave. He has provided a wealth of info here.

Just tell your wife you took the Vision out and got it a face lift, and a new set of ****, and some butt injections (but make sure you hide the Vision).
You're talking about RL Lemke. He's also one of the moderators.
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