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post #51 of 52 Old 11-12-2019, 03:31 PM
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Keep your eyes on the road at all times and give situational awareness your full-time attention. What curves are so sharp on public roads that you can't handle? If you are afraid of the road ahead then you're riding above your capabilities and slow down, and if you have to ride below the speed limit then you need to get off the road and into a motorcycle class with a private instructor on a closed circuit like a race track.

The roads where a GPS look-ahead would be helpful, like the dragon tail, are too challenging to take your eyes off the road anyway. Listen to your GPS voice commands, unless you got long-range visibility like on interstates, or Texas or Kansas or .......but then you can see the road ahead with your own eyes.

Periodic rider training, basically tests to see if you can still do maneuvers, I think are great and take them every few years. But they in no way replace riding over the local conditions. Worse, they give false confidence and perception on a pristine track. Besides, when you get used to speed and have racing skills then you won't be satisfied with common traffic. Everobdy knows it from long trips on the interstate, you get off the exit and all over a sudden 70 mph is the new 40 mph. Public highways are not a race track.
I think we are discussing past each other from disparate points of view. In my view situational awareness means being aware of whats coming without being able to see it so you can plan accordingly. In yours it requires seeing it so you can react in response. I wouldn't be comfortable with that only, and you are. Different styles. Its not like I don't prioritize the road ahead of me but I am also paying attention to mirrors, the sound around me, and the actions of all the other drivers/riders. Its just an overall awareness of which the GPS matters to me. Bottom line for *me* is that situational awareness means more than what you can see, if it didn't we wouldn't have useful tools like radar, sonar, and helmet slapping pillions.
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post #52 of 52 Old 11-12-2019, 11:43 PM
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I think we are discussing past each other from disparate points of view. In my view situational awareness means being aware of whats coming without being able to see it so you can plan accordingly. In yours it requires seeing it so you can react in response. I wouldn't be comfortable with that only, and you are. Different styles. Its not like I don't prioritize the road ahead of me but I am also paying attention to mirrors, the sound around me, and the actions of all the other drivers/riders. Its just an overall awareness of which the GPS matters to me. Bottom line for *me* is that situational awareness means more than what you can see, if it didn't we wouldn't have useful tools like radar, sonar, and helmet slapping pillions.
I think you're right. I got wound up about Donna's GPS post.
I got no bones to pick, actually agree with what you wrote. Appreciate the video on late apex and value of straight lines. All good stuff in my book too.

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