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post #11 of 43 Old 04-17-2019, 08:16 AM
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Wonder if those straight longitudinal grooves will have bad tramlining on grooved pavement? Nobody else seems to use that design, but maybe Pirelli figured out the secret sauce.

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post #12 of 43 Old 04-17-2019, 08:32 AM
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Echo @Marc11 comments. The Dunlop RS III have been the bench mark for 2 years now. They grip as well, if not better, than all others, wet/dry, and get better mileage. And it doesn’t hurt that the Dunlop’s cost less than the nearest competitors, Michelin and Pirelli. I don’t have the talent to run any tire harder than I do the Dunlop’s. If the new Pirelli’s perform as well the Dunlop’s they’ll have to get significantly better mileage and be close to same value to get me to switch.

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Wonder if those straight longitudinal grooves will have bad tramlining on grooved pavement? Nobody else seems to use that design, but maybe Pirelli figured out the secret sauce.
Yap, that style tread used to be popular back when I started riding in the '80s. It would "groove wander" over bridges with metal grid surfaces. Not exactly lose traction, but just an unsettling feeling for the rider. It was so common at the time, driver's ed instructors and videos quite often mentioned this and advised riders to keep a light grip on the handlebar and don't "fight it". Then when tire compound improved and all those tread grooves weren't necessary any more, the circumferential grooves all but disappeared.

Besides, two grooves very near the the center line on the front tire reduce the land-to-sea ratio of an already very small contact patch. I'm not a fan of this industry trend toward optimizing wet traction, seemingly at the cost of dry traction. I blame Michelin's Pilot Roads series for this, starting with PR3. The PR4 was so heavily siped, there were lots of complaints of squirmy handling. So much so Michelin deleted a lot of the siping on PR5 and went with less, shorter but larger, grooves instead.

I had the original Angel GT on my Speed Triple R and thought it was a great match. Chalk me up as a non-fan for the GT II.
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It'll be interesting to see some road reports in a few months from those who have gone from RSIIIs to the Pirellis. I'm with Gunnert...will be hard to beat the RSIII! I'd be tempted to try them, but I still have a MN season (short) left on my RSIIIs.

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Letís us now what you think of the tires needing new ones and was Not sure between Bridgestone and pirelli

I'm pretty sure any brand is better than Bridgestone. Getting a flat area in the center on the back tire from miles of freeway riding is normal but Bridgestone is the only tire I've ever seen that gets a flat spot on the front.

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They have changed the tread pattern a bit. I don't know why one picture is so much bigger than the other.
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I'm pretty sure any brand is better than Bridgestone. Getting a flat area in the center on the back tire from miles of freeway riding is normal but Bridgestone is the only tire I've ever seen that gets a flat spot on the front.
Dunno how Bridgestone suckered BMW into putting 3-4 generation old touring tires on the K1600 for OEM. Those BT021/022 are at least 10yrs old, if not a lot longer.

I've ridden T30, T30 EVO and the latest T31 and they are excellent sport touring tires, no less capable than other "name brands" I've had. I've also had S20 supersport tires on lighter weight bikes. Every bit as good as Q2 and Diablo SuperCorsa.

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Dunno how Bridgestone suckered BMW into putting 3-4 generation old touring tires on the K1600 for OEM. Those BT021/022 are at least 10yrs old, if not a lot longer.



I've ridden T30, T30 EVO and the latest T31 and they are excellent sport touring tires, no less capable than other "name brands" I've had. I've also had S20 supersport tires on lighter weight bikes. Every bit as good as Q2 and Diablo SuperCorsa.
I absolutely love the T30/T31 Evo tires and I normally hate Bridgestone tires. But the grip, mileage and price are all top notch in my opinion. I've burned through two sets with a third set mounted currently.

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Echo @Marc11 comments. The Dunlop RS III have been the bench mark for 2 years now. They grip as well, if not better, than all others, wet/dry, and get better mileage. And it doesnít hurt that the Dunlopís cost less than the nearest competitors, Michelin and Pirelli. I donít have the talent to run any tire harder than I do the Dunlopís. If the new Pirelliís perform as well the Dunlopís theyíll have to get significantly better mileage and be close to same value to get me to switch.

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While I liked the two sets of Angel GT's I've run on my bike, I feel the center of the rear tire wore faster than the center of the RSIII. The Angel fronts also scalloped quicker than the RSIII. Overall after 1 set of RSIII's, I'll be sticking with them as I'm completely happy with the grip and mileage I get from them.
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I just put a set on last Friday but haven't been able to get out on them yet. Looking forward to giving them a good shakedown in the next week.

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