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post #21 of 101 Old 07-17-2019, 10:00 PM
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Great observation! Not everyone checks them

As to who actually replaces their own bearings ... there’s a lot of guys here who love the challenge. When I encountered the need, I just took my wheel to the dealership along with my credit card

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Well, Dan, you made me think of another worthless story.
I bought a used fat wheel and fender from a local shop for my HD Softail and got rid of the tall skinny wheel and fender. Was an older guy with a great reputation, so I thought.

The guy threw in new bearings and installed them. I was riding to work one morning a day later, slowed down for a 35mph zone, and the front wheel locked up. I had to slide the front tire across two lanes of traffic into a parking lot and have it towed home. The bearings were screwed. I replaced them myself and never had another problem with them.
I don't think I will ever trust anyone else to do my bearings for me again.
Even when my credit card is no longer maxed out. lol
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An even crazier story.
Took two motorcycle spoke wheels to another older very experienced guy at a local shop for new tires. Asked for the few spokes that were missing to be replaced. Waited for the tires and spokes to come in, and got the call that my wheels/tires were ready. Even though the bill was the same as what i was originally quoted, the spokes were still missing. I asked about that and he said "We couldn't find any to fit those wheels, it'll be fine, we ride bikes like that all the time. Just a few missing won't hurt anything."
Geeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzz. Now i do my own.
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post #22 of 101 Old 07-17-2019, 11:18 PM
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Your reply to him should have been.. Why yes I have, I've been talking to guys who have real world experience on tires for a bike you have never owned or ridden on a regular basis.

I wouldn't let a GS rider tell me §hit about tires for my K1600. His opinion is worth everything your paying him for it.. and that's absolutely nothing. He's just another salesman who's drank the koolaid and thinks the only tire ever made that works on a K1600 is the PR4.

That would piss me off so bad, I'd take my bike elsewhere. I've done it before for those very reasons.

On edit. Apparently I ain't done yet..
There's more knowledge in any single page of threads on this site than that moron will have in his entire life. Since when does the experience of many who actually ride this bike get trumped by some part counter guy who's got zero experience with said bike and tires... gawd.. pisses me off..

This is probably the biggest reason I'll never run PR4's. Phuckin PR4 lemmings... I swear..



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I think you stopped at that same shop I was at the other day in Grand Junction. Morons over there wanted $300 for a rear PR4 and 70 for mounting the rear only. The salesman said that an expensive motorcycle should have expensive tires.

I walked out.
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post #23 of 101 Old 07-17-2019, 11:29 PM
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Has anybody got feedback on comparative road noise. I put on rs3, have just 3500 on them and for the last 1000, noticed increased road noise when going round long sweepers just gently leaning over ? I havent noticed this noise on any of my other tires on my ga. Thanks in advance

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Darby,

I think you stopped at that same shop I was at the other day in Grand Junction. Morons over there wanted $300 for a rear PR4 and 70 for mounting the rear only. The salesman said that an expensive motorcycle should have expensive tires.

I walked out.
Yea, those guys are shysters, have been for 30 years. They are the same unscrupulous bunch that bent me over for 3 quarts of oil about 6 weeks ago. That ain't never going to happen again.

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Man, I've got to ride with some you guys on here. I thought I pushed my GT hard and have had absolutely no issues with grip from the Dunlop RSIII's. Please, if any of you guys complaining about the grip of the Dunlops are ever in my area let me know, I'd like to follow you for a while.

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My thoughts exactly. Just ran the Dunlop RSIII's this weekend at a track day. I basically out rode the leaning capabilities of the motorcycle (had to remove my highway pegs because they were scraping, see photos below) and the RSIII's didn't skip a beat... Predictable traction everytime
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First set was a PR 3 - mileage was less than 5,000 they had good traction but were smooth when I replaced
Second,through 4th sets were PR4 GT - also ran them on my K1200S - wet or dry good feel, response and decent mileage 4,500 to 6,000 depending on road surface and throttle application
Metzeler Roadtec 01 - great feel through 6,500 miles then became noisy but lasted until 8,000 - again dependant mostly on road surface. Wet and dry performance as good as PR 4GT
Continental Road Attack 3 - altered handling of the K1600, it would weave at certain speeds and shudder over 85, hey did not like wet roads - had them removed at less than 2,000 miles for Dunlop RS III
I'm on my second set of Roadsmarts - first set was was swapped out at 6,200 miles only because it was another 1,800 miles to the next dealer- wet and dry performance as good as Michelin PR 4 GT and Metzeler Roadtec 3, maybe a little better. The second set feel the same but the balance seems to be off. I put 4,000 plus on them from Anchorage home and they still have at least half the tread.
I run 42 PSi front and Rear and check pressure every other day
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My thoughts exactly. Just ran the Dunlop RSIII's this weekend at a track day. I basically out rode the leaning capabilities of the motorcycle (had to remove my highway pegs because they were scraping, see photos below) and the RSIII's didn't skip a beat... Predictable traction everytime
Predictable traction every time! Couldn't have said it any better, great description. I used to worry about traction when pushing hard with bridgestones as they would slide out. Then it got fun after I figured out they would only slide out about 6 inches. Then I tried the RSIII's and they said NO WAY push all you want I'll be there, I laugh at your tactics.

I'm afraid to say it but the RSIII's make the mighty K1600 feel slightly underpowered.
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@mglax13 , I've had the GT on the track at VIR (Virginia International Raceway) 4 times. If you want to feel like superman mount a set of Dunlop Sportmax Q3 next time you're on the track. For anyone riding solo and not caring about mileage (I got about 1800 miles) or rain performance (NOT recommended for wet pavement) I highly recommend trying a set.

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Many of you know what I think of the Michelins. The Dunlop is a great tore and possibly the best available for our bike. For anyone that hasn't read my many posts regarding the PR4's, they are the polar opposite of the Dunlops.
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