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11-13-2019 07:17 PM
maybeinoregon The 2020 XR is pretty sweet...

TFT, less weight, cornering lamp, 6 axis sensor, keyless ride, lots of new stuff...

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...-bmw-s-1000-xr
11-13-2019 03:45 PM
dobervol
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Originally Posted by mkr1966 View Post
Sure it isn't...
Well, the S1000XR has been objectively measured as a LOT faster than even the new 1260 Multistrada. So tell us exactly where the Multi beats it. I'm sure it's a lot better bike for what some particular people want/need for a particular purpose, but give us some specifics.
11-06-2019 01:49 PM
mkr1966 Sure it isn't...
11-06-2019 05:54 AM
GTLen
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Has everyone forgotten about the Multistrada. Best engine of all!
The Multi is a nice bike, but not in the same league as the S1000XR.
11-06-2019 03:35 AM
K16guy
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Before you do, consider taking a long hard look at the Yamaha 700 Tenere arriving next year. I had both on my list but scratched the KTM due to a fair amount of teething pains and lacking Yamaha reliability longer term. Performance numbers suggest they are very close and the Yamaha will be quite a bit cheaper as well. That 700 engine is a peach.
Yup i'm watching for that too. Since i'm on the subject, KTM just (today-ish) announced it's 390 ADV.
11-03-2019 11:18 AM
mkr1966 Has everyone forgotten about the Multistrada. Best engine of all!
11-02-2019 06:42 PM
bmac
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Originally Posted by K16guy View Post
I'm gonna be that guy.. As nice as beemers are KTM is picking up the slack and their newest 790 ADV R is a **** of a contender for ADV touring use. Good range, good creature comforts for solo use, and great offroad cred too. Fully loaded it's selling for 13k new.
Before you do, consider taking a long hard look at the Yamaha 700 Tenere arriving next year. I had both on my list but scratched the KTM due to a fair amount of teething pains and lacking Yamaha reliability longer term. Performance numbers suggest they are very close and the Yamaha will be quite a bit cheaper as well. That 700 engine is a peach.
11-02-2019 10:29 AM
Pitts
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Originally Posted by dobervol View Post
No problem. Lots of KTM fans here, and several people prefer the Super Duke GT to the S1000XR, too. Interestingly, I havenít seen many folks here who prefer the big KTM adv bike to the GS. Maybe thatís because the KTM adv bikes seem to be more hard-core and off-road biased, except for maybe the BMW F850GS.
I used to ride with someone that had a 1290SA and believe me when I say that 160 hp is intoxicating in that bike. He enjoyed spanking us GS guys every chance he got and had his very well sorted for hard off-road use as well. On the spec sheet and on the road, the KTM wins. Off-road and in the heart and soul, the GS wins. I know, that's really subjective and you'd think the KTM would be a better weapon off-road but the low CG of the GS is much more preferable for me. I can ride my GS almost like a trials bike in tight gnarly terrain and I think I'd have more difficulty doing that on the KTM even with the 21" front. Maybe it's just what I'm used to...
11-01-2019 11:37 PM
dobervol
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Originally Posted by K16guy View Post
I'm gonna be that guy.. As nice as beemers are KTM is picking up the slack and their newest 790 ADV R is a **** of a contender for ADV touring use. Good range, good creature comforts for solo use, and great offroad cred too. Fully loaded it's selling for 13k new.
No problem. Lots of KTM fans here, and several people prefer the Super Duke GT to the S1000XR, too. Interestingly, I havenít seen many folks here who prefer the big KTM adv bike to the GS. Maybe thatís because the KTM adv bikes seem to be more hard-core and off-road biased, except for maybe the BMW F850GS.
11-01-2019 10:05 PM
K16guy
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Originally Posted by dobervol View Post
I'm loving my K16GT, but thinking about my next BMW a couple years away.

The OP described my experience test-riding the R1200, but to me the power, smoothness and quick-shifter on the R1250GS was a revelation. I preferred the GSA on-road, surprisingly, as the suspension felt like it handled bumps better with my fat butt. The extra travel may have helped for a heavy guy, but the slightly longer wheelbase over the base GS I think may have helped, too. I don't think anyone who isn't riding across Burma needs 7 gallons, but for those of us who just hate gassing up, even if we have to stop, it's a nice extra.

To my amazement, even for a 90% pavement-only GS, I preferred the GSA. That said, the saddle is too narrow for long-haul work, and the hand-crank windscreen knob is a joke (yes, I know the reasons for it, supposedly, but I'm not going to ride my bike through endless sand, and I'll bet very few are).

I like the idea of the S1000XR, too, though, and may get an old-man seat for one of those, and put some gravel/fire road tires on it.

But I won't make up my mind between the two until ready to buy, no doubt. Just like the resale of GSA over GS, and either over the K16s, the GS is cheaper on insurance than the K16, too, or at least it was with my local TN company. And I know the OP didn't have the S1000XR on his radar, but it's the same on insurance cost as a S1000RR with many companies. And they don't hold their value nearly as well as a GS, either.

And one last preference thing: I still prefer the analog speedo and tach on the 1250RT and K1600s. The 2019 computer screen on the GS/A is way cool, but I'd like to have a slightly smaller one of those below an analog speedo and tach.
I'm gonna be that guy.. As nice as beemers are KTM is picking up the slack and their newest 790 ADV R is a **** of a contender for ADV touring use. Good range, good creature comforts for solo use, and great offroad cred too. Fully loaded it's selling for 13k new.
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