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12-02-2019 12:24 PM
alpetel1965 Very good topic !!! When I joined a riding club, the ride leader gave me a whole bible on group riding and it was very informative. I also had to sign a weaver. First few rides, I was positioned one rider before the last one in the group. One thing that was so responsible by the group was insisting on me not to listen to any music via speakers or helmet or not to use the phone at all times...period. Group riding can be really fun and very dangerous as well. Happy riding....!!!!
12-01-2019 09:13 AM
squibb I'm no fan of group rides, although they can be made reasonably safe using the 'second rider drop-off system', along with strict maintenance of an ample distance between each bike. It's so easy to get caught up in someone else's accident & riders at the tail of the group usually end up taking risks in order to keep up. Tight grouping, as we often see with HOG, seems particularly inappropriate in today's traffic conditions, as we saw with those unfortunate US Marine Vets earlier this year.

Obviously, groups cannot always be avoided - say when attending a race meeting. There always seems to be some nut job who thinks he has the right to be doing wheelies, stoppies & burnouts in close proximity to others, but with a bit of luck his tyre will blow - I am thinking of the experience of riding south after the Dutch TT at Assen here.
11-30-2019 02:11 PM
Originally Posted by Darbinco View Post
The one that really ruined me was back in '99ish at a local circus event called a toy run. There was about 300 bikes in attendance and I vowed to never do it again.
Ahh... You triggered a memory I had forgotten... From '98-02 I was on Guam with my K11LT and occasionaly met up with the Guam Hawgs(sic). We did a Christmas toy run as a group. Because of the relative quickness and nimbleness of the K11 they had me playing "Road Guard". I would run ahead of the group and block traffic at the major intersections, wait for the main part of the group to pass through, then ride like **** to get ahead of them again to block the next intersection. Sounds a bit hooligany but it was an accepted practicce by the local populace and GPD.

11-30-2019 01:15 PM
Mole999 You can train for riding at speed, making the most progress possible. Otherwise don't do what anyone else does, late braking or apexes you are not comfortable with. Learn to read to road and ride to that.
11-30-2019 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by StephenV View Post
My last "group ride" was the Femont Riders Father's Day ride in 1993 ('94?). That fixed it for me.

I think we've all been on one of those.

The one that really ruined me was back in '99ish at a local circus event called a toy run. There was about 300 bikes in attendance and I vowed to never do it again.

I let my guard down in hopes of expanding my riding options with the local HOG group ride (around 10 bikes) in 2012. It took forever to get 40 miles down due to three stops for smoke breaks in one additional stop for a smoke break and coffee. I left them behind when they stopped for lunch.

Now the only group rides I do are in late August
11-30-2019 01:09 PM
Arizona Jim Every summer I do a 7-10 day group ride with my brothers and some friends. We have anywhere from 4-8 riders. We have evolved into a pecking order with some of us switching the lead and others who want to stay in the rear.

We all have each nights destination in our GPS so if we get separated or want to take a different route then no big deal. We don't ride in a pack but rather stretch out the string of riders. If someone wants or needs to stop (change jackets, take a picture or pee) they just do it and the rest keep moving and don't get stressed out about it. A cell phone call would work if there was a bike problem (a few of us are hooked up to our phones while riding). A couple guys are early risers so they will take off when ready usually grabbing a place for breakfast and coffee until the rest of us to catch up.

The main thing is everyone is on their own schedule and do their own riding style but pretty much on the groups route and final destination. No one is concerned how the others do their ride.
11-30-2019 12:59 PM
Originally Posted by Jonnybow View Post
Then do whatever makes you comfortable
Why would anyone do anything else?

A "group" ride could be 3 people that meet in the morning, ride a mile apart to the same place for lunch, then return. Nothing at all risky or wrong with that. The other cars on the road are a far bigger risk.

I've never ridden in a group that is tightly packed where one bike going down can take down the next 50 behind them...and never will. But, a "group" can mean many things.
11-29-2019 07:00 PM
StephenV My last "group ride" was the Femont Riders Father's Day ride in 1993 ('94?). That fixed it for me.

11-29-2019 01:52 PM
earthling There are rides with friends, group rides, and pack rides. That weekly ride with friends is something we have been doing for years, we know each others skills well and its is second nature to be able to predict how they are going to act/react in any situation. The group rides, where it is mixed, I still do those but I am either off the front or off the back. Typically off the back because I can keep an eye on the other (new to the group) rider. They aren't as fun because I feel like a sheepdog sometimes. The pack rides (charity rides, etc) I will only do off the back. I do the rides for the cause and because our group is in the pack but typically we aren't even suited up while others are leaving. We hang out, let everyone else head out and follow on the tail end, these typically are not that fun, but they support the awareness of riders so...
11-29-2019 01:37 PM
RedCard For a while I was doing group rides with an old VTX club. And some of them were a real hoot with the right riders. But with unknown riders it seemed like some jackass was always going down. One guy went wide in a curve and right into a ditch, this at a moderate speed so it wasn't like he was trying to keep up. Not being attentive? A little tipsy? Not sure, but having met the rider I wasn't surprised. Ya, you know what I mean.

Another time a guy was riding like a banshee on a back road that made an abrupt right turn. He kept going straight, thankfully just into the bush and ironically the bush held him and his bike upright. He was just a couple bikes ahead of me. I watched him disappear into the bush as I was aligning for the right turn. It was actually kinda surreal.

The one group ride I did with K1600s in Colorado was trouble-free!
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