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post #41 of 48 Old 10-10-2019, 02:33 PM Thread Starter
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It is a shock to learn that we are fragile.

Adding an airbag is prudent, whichever airbag you choose to use.

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I don't own either but was turned off by the fact that the alpine requires a recharge to reset the system. The Helite seemed more like squish, replace cartridge, and go. Of course all of that is just from reading the marketing material. Tether systems work well enough, I have had them in our race boat and on various jet skis, snowmobiles, etc.. they are very dependable and become second nature. Also there is the 'beats nothing' aspect of just using either system.

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This last ride in the Sierras, one of our riders had an awkward bike drop which resulted in a soft fall and inflation of the Helite airbag. Tiny scratches to the RT and a rush by the other riders to upright the bike and unsnap the airbag from crushing the rider.

The Alpinestar computer determines whether the crash warrants inflation, and the type of inflation. For the race version, which only inflates one argon canister in a crash, the rep at the motorcycle show said bone breaks went to zero. The street version inflates both argon canisters in deployment. I suspect this is the case because the street version covers much more body area than the race version.

The Alpinestars system is heavy. Lift the jacket and you are getting a workout. Once on though, it weighs nothing.

After a crash:

Helite: Change out the single CO2 cartridge and you are good to go.
Alpinestars: Send the whole jacket to California to get updated software, new argon canisters, and complete checkout.

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After a crash:

Helite: Change out the single CO2 cartridge and you are good to go.
Alpinestars: Send the whole jacket to California to get updated software, new argon canisters, and complete checkout.
To be clear, I am NOT arguing in any way that the Helite is "superior" to the A-stars system in terms of efficacy or protection, but the above, alone, was all I needed to hear to go Helite. I fully expect someone to develop a system in the future which is better than either alternative at present, but for now, I'll live with the old tether system.

Some days in the summer, though, I just can't hack the heat of having that solid thing on me, on top of everything else.
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Here is how the Alpinestars jacket works.

The yellow C shape has another matching one on the other side of the jacket. When you zip the jacket closed, align the two yellow Cs on top of each other and the system is turned on.

Lights on the left sleeve flash in patters indicating the diagnostic and then goes to steady green as the system is in standby. Once riding the green light switches to flashing as the computer sees riding movement and the system is armed.



Certainly more complicated than connecting a tether from the Helite vest to the bike. Certainly better looking.
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Helite V2 is has been available for awhile now. Admittedly, Im not familiar with it...yet.
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Helite V2 is has been available for awhile now. Admittedly, Im not familiar with it...yet.



From what I can tell the changes are not related to how it deploys or what areas it covers. Looks like they hid the cylinder, added a pocket and increased visibility on the back.

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Here is how the Alpinestars jacket works.

The yellow C shape has another matching one on the other side of the jacket. When you zip the jacket closed, align the two yellow Cs on top of each other and the system is turned on.

Lights on the left sleeve flash in patters indicating the diagnostic and then goes to steady green as the system is in standby. Once riding the green light switches to flashing as the computer sees riding movement and the system is armed.



Certainly more complicated than connecting a tether from the Helite vest to the bike. Certainly better looking.
To be fair, if all I wanted was better looking, Id have gotten a Ducati, not a BMW.

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