Still very curious to hear what you have to say about it after riding Faster!
Gotcha..makes sense. I’ll be sure to consider that. I may try to go straight to the GW I demo‘d for a back to back.The 2022s have a very different suspension - much better quality compared to the previous gen. And 20k miles the OEM suspension on your test bike may be even worse.
In my case, a suspension upgrade (Wilbers), on my 17+ GT, has made the most difference in terms of high speed stability.
Just thought I would throw in a different angle on the whole stability issue - you might want to take the test results from tomorrow with a grain of salt.
I’ll be sure a give my findings Dave!Still very curious to hear what you have to say about it after riding Faster!
Thanks for sharing; this is great input info and now I have to think quickly and critically about taking delivery on the bike. And maybe get myself a test ride on a Wing, or consider something else. Super helpful.I really hate to post this but the 2018 Grand America I just rode was worse and than I anticipated in regards to stability. At speeds over 70 it was very nervous and jittery. I’ve not felt anything quite like it on a motorcycle before and as I’ve mentioned I owned a K1600 GT for 35000 miles. It had a bit of a wondering problem but nothing like this. I’m actually a bit shocked as I write this. Granted it was an 18 with 19000 miles on it, and maybe that is where the complaints stem from, and all of this has been resolved since, but it seems there are still some complaints on the newer bikes. At first I didn’t buy that Motoradd limited the bike to 105 because of this issue. Now I do. I would not feel comfortable riding this bike at those speeds. I actually find it very sad that BMW doesn’t find this unacceptable. I also don’t see how any seasoned rider who rides this bike would find the behavior acceptable. Weird.
I wanted to like this bike and I’m disappointed in my findings. I really hope that the newer bikes are significantly improved for current and future owners and I really don’t mean to disparage the bike or their owners.
That's the new suspension, as I anticipated. As I found out during a test ride of a 2022 GTL, it is much improved over the previous generations - it finally fits the precision and elegance of the bike . Still not as good as my Wilbers , but surprisingly good considering it's OEM.I have a 2022 GA. Speed restricted to 100 mph.
It tops out at 167 km/h so I guess its the way it is.
Anyway it is MUCH more stable @ 100 mph than my old Bagger was at the same speed.
I have not felt any "wobbliness" at speed at all (unless behind a big truck/rig).
Wow. That is truly unbelievable. A premium Sport Touring motorcycle with recommended speed rating of 81mph🤔😒. But now that I’ve ridden it, it makes total sense.The GA is definitely the one to avoid. I was going to get one instead of a GTL until I read the warning sticker in the case and the manual.
Maybe worth checking the latest manual to see if it's uprated. But 2018 is 130km/h which is max 81mph
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Fully agree with this response. IMO, describing the GAI've posted about this on several threads. I came from the GL world. I've owned pretty much every model with the exception of the last one. When it came time to get into a big bike again, I naturally went to look and test ride a GL but I'd always liked the way the B looked so I went to try them out. In short, yes they have a bit of a weave on occasion. It's a "quirk" the B and the GA have in dirty air. It's never really bad enough for you to lose control, but it can be an annoyance during windy days. High traffic exacerbates the problem. You'll read quite a few comments that mention trailers as being the culprit. In reality, any heavy traffic combined with unstable air will cause the issue. It's not only at high speeds either, it can happen anywhere from 50 to 150 MPH. Once you get used to it's a non-issue. The decision is going to be on your type of riding. If you're a mile muncher doing long days on the interstate, the GL is your bike. HOWEVER, if you like venturing out on curvy roads, mountainous or flat, the K is a way superior bike. I was surprised by how beautifully the bike maneuvered and how fast I could ride during my first curvy mountain ride on a road that I was very familiar with and have been on countless times on my wings and Valkyries. The B just left me speechless at how good it corners and comes out of corners and .... It's just an amazing bike is all I can say. I've been a convert for going on 2 years now and have not regretted it one bit. But again, it's going to depend on your style of riding. I have a need for speed as well as long-distance comfort. The K1600 satisfies that need. Good luck with your quest.
Fully agree. Using "instability" to describe the GA is an overstatement IMO. To me "instability" implies unsafe, which is not the case.I've posted about this on several threads. I came from the GL world. I've owned pretty much every model with the exception of the last one. When it came time to get into a big bike again, I naturally went to look and test ride a GL but I'd always liked the way the B looked so I went to try them out. In short, yes they have a bit of a weave on occasion. It's a "quirk" the B and the GA have in dirty air. It's never really bad enough for you to lose control, but it can be an annoyance during windy days. High traffic exacerbates the problem. You'll read quite a few comments that mention trailers as being the culprit. In reality, any heavy traffic combined with unstable air will cause the issue. It's not only at high speeds either, it can happen anywhere from 50 to 150 MPH. Once you get used to it's a non-issue. The decision is going to be on your type of riding. If you're a mile muncher doing long days on the interstate, the GL is your bike. HOWEVER, if you like venturing out on curvy roads, mountainous or flat, the K is a way superior bike. I was surprised by how beautifully the bike maneuvered and how fast I could ride during my first curvy mountain ride on a road that I was very familiar with and have been on countless times on my wings and Valkyries. The B just left me speechless at how good it corners and comes out of corners and .... It's just an amazing bike is all I can say. I've been a convert for going on 2 years now and have not regretted it one bit. But again, it's going to depend on your style of riding. I have a need for speed as well as long-distance comfort. The K1600 satisfies that need. Good luck with your quest.
What was the result of your test ride sir? I'm thinking of a 2018 K1600B or GW 2019/2021 standard. Please advise.Fortunately I found a GA with 20k mikes on it to test ride tomorrow. It’s an 18 but should still give me plenty of the feedback I need.
He rode the bike and posted his thoughts in post # 28 above.What was the result of your test ride sir? I'm thinking of a 2018 K1600B or GW 2019/2021 standard. Please advise.
not the case on my 2019 Grand America, I had it up to 107 and it will still pulling....hard LOL Manual says:It is the reason BMW put a 105mph speed limiter on the GA. They don't want to get sued. They know the bike has high speed stability problems. Call it dirty air, or justify it as a handling quirk. Many blame the top case. Others say it's the floorboards. Maybe let's ask BMW since corporations do things only for a compelling reason.