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As most of us know that own a K1600 GT or GTL or R 1250 RT etc. to the handlebars as they are difficult to mount most phones, due to the handlebar design. I have tried so many combinations over the years. Here is my solution and it took 3 brans to get it correct lol.

I final bought a Wunderlich Handlebar Adaptor, I then had to buy a longer bolt to mount my Ram 1`` ball then attached a Ram short double Arm to that ( I have longer one should I want to use that. ) then I bought a Quad Mount and Phone case with a 1``ball mount to bring it all together. See photos below !! Now all I have to do is wait for the New GTL to be released from BMW after the gearbox recall to mount this and see if I need any further mods. :smile:
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I mount mine between the bars. I use a perfect squeeze phone Mount with a short extension.
 

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I also mounted my in the stem. Doesn't get in the way, easy to reach the phone when stopped, and doesn't interfere with my tank bag. I can also see all of the gauges.


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Geoff that is a great way to mount something on your handlebars.


For another method I shamelessly direct you to my thread here
https://www.k1600forum.com/forum/bmw-k1600-sale-parts/192722-ramball-black-friday-sale.html
Jim thanks and I remember way back in 2017 when I had my first K1600GTL you were making these.Great idea the issue for us here in Australia is our dollars so low compared to the US dollar and then good old USPS but the time we buy anything these days from the USA etc the cost in most cases is almost doubled then add the equal amount of the item for the USPS postal services it makes the items close to just over twice the original cost of the item in the states. I thank you for the update and if out dollar ever gets closer to what it used to be then I would consider buying one of your stems also. Meanwhile, I have done this one for the time being and I know it works without getting in the way of gauges etc also. But I also have to wait till BMW release my new GTL from their warehouse to the dealership and that won't be till some time next year by the looks of it with no indication from BMW when what they are really going to do or when just the issue. I am hoping they replace the gearbox as a whole unit but it will be what it is. Thanks once again for your product information. All the best for the upcoming festive season too.
 

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Geoff that is a great way to mount something on your handlebars.


For another method I shamelessly direct you to my thread here
https://www.k1600forum.com/forum/bmw-k1600-sale-parts/192722-ramball-black-friday-sale.html
In addition to having two of Jim's great balls (one on each bike) I also sport this on the handlebar... Before using Jim's balls to mount my Garmin 376c then 478 in the center, they were mounted here. Now I use it to carry a 7" tablet. In over 100k miles on the '12 it haasn't moved a lick...

 

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In addition to having two of Jim's great balls (one on each bike) I also sport this on the handlebar... Before using Jim's balls to mount my Garmin 376c then 478 in the center, they were mounted here. Now I use it to carry a 7" tablet. In over 100k miles on the '12 it haasn't moved a lick...

I would say Jim would be so happy to know his balls are being used in a positive way lol :grin::wink::smile::laugh:
 

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New Favorite Phone Holder

I was going to post this, but I'll just add under here.

My new favorite phone mount -- Tackform's Enduro Series, replacing my old favorite, Ram's X-mount. The X-mount kept phone in place in wreck in which the bike was totaled. Great Design. But time to move on.

Only needs one hand to put on and take off, smaller footprint on phone, and holds as good as the x-mount. It comes with the web-thing but I don't use it.

I bought it without the handlebar mount, which I think would block some dash info, for about $20 bucks less.

Note you can buy it with either a ball, or the connector.

https://www.tackform.com/collections/motorcycle-phone-mounts/products/enduro-series-bmw-motorcycle-phone-mount-for-k1600-r1200
 

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My link for my "New Favorite Mount" post above takes to you a similar prefabed set up, for about $60 including my new favorite mount.

You buy it complete, https://www.tackform.com/collections/motorcycle-phone-mounts/products/enduro-series-bmw-motorcycle-phone-mount-for-k1600-r1200

For others that may have the rest of mounting stuff except for the handlebar bolt, you can buy the handlebar adapter with ball buy itself for $25.

https://www.tackform.com/products/m10-adapter-for-bmw-handlebars

I didn't order the handle bar mount but am wondering if it set up covers any of the dash info?

I have nothing to do with Tackform, but I like what I see them doing.

Also, know that this a 20mm (3/4") ball set up. Pro: a smaller profile. Con: not compatible with all the 1" ball extensions you may have.
 

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My link for my "New Favorite Mount" post above takes to you a similar prefabed set up, for about $60 including my new favorite mount.

You buy it complete, https://www.tackform.com/collections/motorcycle-phone-mounts/products/enduro-series-bmw-motorcycle-phone-mount-for-k1600-r1200

For others that may have the rest of mounting stuff except for the handlebar bolt, you can buy the handlebar adapter with ball buy itself for $25.

https://www.tackform.com/products/m10-adapter-for-bmw-handlebars

I didn't order the handle bar mount but am wondering if it set up covers any of the dash info?

I have nothing to do with Tackform, but I like what I see them doing.

Also, know that this a 20mm (3/4") ball set up. Pro: a smaller profile. Con: not compatible with all the 1" ball extensions you may have.
If you use the Ram connecting arms you can almost have your phone in any position you wish , without obstructing the gauges. See my photos above to give you a better idea. Mind you the arms come is different sizes. I have a small one and a med. size one but find the small one works best for me. The stem with the ball made by Jim one of our forum members is a great way of also mounting your phones in the centre of the handlebars via the fork stem. See his photos below.
 

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Here is what it looks like with one of Jim's balls holding the 478 and the RAM pictured earlier holding a 10" tablet. A 7" tablet fits a little nicer and allows me to see the entire indicator section. Sure don't need to see the tachometer, the most useless gauge on the bike.



Both the tablet and the 478 plug into an SM10 which is paired to the SMH-10s on our helmets. We can get guidance and entertainment from either or both at the same time.
 

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...The stem with the ball made by Jim one of our forum members is a great way of also mounting your phones in the centre of the handlebars via the fork stem. See his photos below.
I guess I wasn't clear. I have Jim's. That's my current set up. and easily recommend it.

So was wondering if I bought the handle bar mount that holds the grips on, like the OP design, if it would interfere with my view of dash info. I don't need it, but then again my X-grip was fine and I didn't need my new Tackform mount.

I think I have a ball mount problem. Was playing with them just this afternoon. I should probably go to rehab. This pic does not even include Jim's or the other two RAM and Tackform mounts installed on my bike. :serious:
 

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Just complete the setup with this:

https://www.amazon.com/Soopus-X-Qi-Certified-Ultra-Slim-Waterproof-Compatible/dp/B07RD4PS9F/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2LN1PJ09TKALD&keywords=waterproof+wireless+charging+pad&qid=1576209696&sprefix=waterproof+wireless+charging,aps,208&sr=8-3

You snap the hone in and it is charging too. No wires to mess with. I've used this for over a year with over 10,000 mi. and it has worked flawlessly. I just used some double-sided tape to attach it to my ram mount and ran the wire inside the tupperware where it connects to a USB port I installed there (for this).
 

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Here is what it looks like with one of Jim's balls holding the 478 and the RAM pictured earlier holding a 10" tablet. A 7" tablet fits a little nicer and allows me to see the entire indicator section. Sure don't need to see the tachometer, the most useless gauge on the bike.



Both the tablet and the 478 plug into an SM10 which is paired to the SMH-10s on our helmets. We can get guidance and entertainment from either or both at the same time.
Wow some hard wear there I thought the tablet may have been from a Tesla lol can you see it clear enough while riding? lol I have to say with all jokes aside you would never miss a navigation point of interest or destination by having the Tablet mounted where you have. Nice to see so many ideas along with the combinations of mounting points etc.
 

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Wow some hard wear there I thought the tablet may have been from a Tesla lol can you see it clear enough while riding? lol I have to say with all jokes aside you would never miss a navigation point of interest or destination by having the Tablet mounted where you have. Nice to see so many ideas along with the combinations of mounting points etc.
While riding the tablet and GPS are mostly audible cues. I would be lying if I told you I never look at them.

However, to answer your question: Yes. The Garmin 478 GPS remains our primary navigation and entertainment device (it has an XM Radio subscription). The tablet suplements the 478 with real-time traffic data, when available, as well as near-real-time RADAR. The XM weather I used for 13 years on the Garmin turned to such shite over the last year or so that it was pretty much useless so I stopped paying $65 a year for it and run the free "MyRADAR" app on the tablet. Here is a screenshot with RADAR and Waze running side-by-side together.



Sometimes just for grins I have the 478 routing along with Waze and Google Maps running on the tablet. With all three set to a female voice it is quite entertaining to hear them arguing with each other as to which way we should go. During "normal" navigation (95% of the time) the Garmin 478 is what we follow. When there are traffic or construction delays, then it is usually Google Maps for the win. Waze is absolutey useless for navigation (see screenshot below.) but seems to have a better handle on LEO and Hazards on the road.

Here I am not far south of Williston, ND headed to Minot. US Highway 2 connects them with (mostly) 70 mph speed limits. The actual shortest/fastest route at the time would have taken a little more than two hours and about 125 miles. Waze thought the better route was to turn around and head south to the Interstate, continue on to Bismarck, then turn north for another two hour ride to Minot... A total of 324 miles and about 4½-5 hours.

 

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StephenV Thanks for the info I have to say I hate sat Navs and find most of the time if you look at a map before you leave home you can get to where your heading without any confusion lol. A good example was my 2018 Indian Road Master that had Ride Command sat nav. it had me turning right on a road about 400 mtrs past the turn lol and that then ended in a dead-end street. After resetting the nav it then took me a further 1..5 klms out of the way and without a way to get onto the road I wanted to be on. So I now use my own nav system that is in my head lol that took me all around Australia and found so many places, including accommodation without looking at a sat nav once. I am hoping they get the sat-nav systems sorted before we have to move to Mars !!!!
 

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Waze is absolutey useless for navigation but seems to have a better handle on LEO and Hazards on the road.
Agreed.

I usually leave Waze running in the background for the occasional audio alert, but don't use it for navigation.

If I'm just running local errands or riding point-to-point, Apple Maps seems to have a better handle on actual traffic delays.

If I'm on hitting many points on a longer route, then I use the BMW Nav VI. And if I'm on an LD Rally, then it's dual Nav VI's supplemented with whatever phone help I can get, if I can get a cell signal...
 

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I've run multiple navigation systems among my vehicles/phones over the past couple years. Initially, I was very surprised when I would start a long route that the differences in estimated arrival time could be an hour or two difference over an 800 mile route. With some additional use, I did occasionally notice differences in the provided routes, but I often found that the systems just generated different times for what might be the exact same route. In comparison with Googlemaps on phone and my Ram truck navigation system, the Googlemaps gave the shorter route time and I pretty much needed to be traveling at the speed limit and not stopping at all. The Ram navigation system appeared to allow some leeway for required gas stops. My personal observations over many years is that Googlemaps previously provided route time for the average needed stops but, in recent years, I think the designers eliminated such stop times in order to appear to give the "faster" route guidance. I will say, using a cellular app in covered areas does have the advantage of traffic updates, whereas the Ram has no such capability. However, if starting out in an area with no cellular signal, some phone apps will not be able to provide a route (some do as they download map databases to the phones, whether by manual selection or automatic downloads for the immediate area).

Have a few big Waze fans at work. I used it for a bit a few years back, mainly before I bought my first radar detector. Discontinued using it after I thought I was distracted by it too much while driving. A year ago, I added my first audio system to a car that was Carplay compatible and then Waze was upgraded to being Carplay compatible. I could put the Waze up on my car audio screen while having my radar detector running along with my phone app (this would be the Escort radar app). Did this for a few weeks and bascially came to my conclusion that Waze is essentially used in comparison to a dedicated radar detector. There were occasional matchups where a Waze user might have added an LEO spotted notification and the LEO might still be running radar at the time I got there, but in the vast majority of actual spots with LEO running radar in a stationary location, there was nothing showing in Waze. When it comes to LEO running radar while driving, which is very common with the local sheriff's department, virtually 100 percent worthless. Of course, if you are following the posted speed limit, you have no need of either :)

I found the weather helpful on my Goldwing navigation system and I would generally be prepared to pull over and don my rain gear...as well as knowing when it was probably time to take it off. The Nav VI system is still new to me and I am still reading up on some of the features and likely won't get to really use them until spring!
 

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I usually leave Waze running in the background for the occasional audio alert, but don't use it for navigation.

The one thing I have not yet been able to definitively discern is whether or not Waze actually provides the alerts if it is not actively routing.

Also wish there was a way to extend its alert trigger to something significantly more than 3½ feet... :grin:
 

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Have a few big Waze fans at work. I used it for a bit a few years back, mainly before I bought my first radar detector.
Not all LEOs use RADAR and knowing about potential LEO activity (or upcoming road hazards) has a benefit far beyond avoiding tickets.

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