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American expats in Portugal?

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My wife and I were talking last night about where we would live in retirement; Portugal came up primarily because I insisted it did. I have visited much of the EU over the years, but I have missed Portugal. I understand it is a top-ten destination for expats.

Here is my question; for those familiar with the best places in Portugal to live; where would you choose to spend your days, and how much would you plan for on a yearly basis for budgeting? Can a couple live in Portugal for about $50,000 USD/yr?
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I almost got married in Portugal and I'm sure it would have cost me more than 50K
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Funny how people always think there’s greener grass elsewhere. Me, stateside seems to be a great place to end up. Can’t get into my reasoning without the mods stepping up but still interesting.
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I lived in Portugal for 2 years but that was about 30 years ago when it was still recovering from the dictatorship, basically considered the 3rd world country of Europe, and it wasn't the hip trendy destination it is now. A modest budget would go pretty far back then. Not sure about now with the Euro etc. If you like mountain/forest and twisty roads and stuff, look around Braga, Chaves, Viseu, Castelo Branco, anywhere around the Serra. If you like coastal beachy stuff, look near Lisbon or south from there along the coasts. That will probably be pricier but maybe if you go slightly inland you could find a cheaper place to live while still having close coastal access. If you want more san francisco/oregon type weather/coasts, go north. Porto, Aveiro, and Figueira da Foz are all nice areas on the northerny-type coast.
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Funny how people always think there’s greener grass elsewhere. Me, stateside seems to be a great place to end up. Can’t get into my reasoning without the mods stepping up but still interesting.
Been here. Done this.
Texas looks like a great place to hangout!

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If you're looking to retire outside the US you might consider several countries in Latin America, a quick google search revealed this article of the top 10 places to retire.

Jump both feet into motorcycle training and then move out of the country? seems odd
I am thinking about later when I have sold out and am retired.
Training riders is going well. It seems I am good at it.
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Sounds like an interesting plan, it's a popular destination for us Brits, even after leaving the EU. Probably the No.1 choice right now, although some find the language/pronunciation a tad impenetrable. I gather many Portuguese now look to Brazil for their retirement/holiday homes however, as living costs have been rising with inflation.

Obviously there is a visa requirement you will both need to satisfy, indeed IIRC there is still a Golden Visa deal to attract inward investment.

Living costs depend upon your expectations - $4k per month would see you living well, based on current exchange rates. Some say they can live on far less, maybe $750 per person/month. However, within the EU Portugal is one of the so called PIGS economies, Euro area Countries where the national debt well exceeds 100% of GDP (USA c. 123%?). There is no crunch in sight, no apparent debt ceiling, but there has been regular talk of somehow creating a two-speed Europe to take account of the significant variation in economic performance across the Union.

@1KPerDay post #4 explores the where? factor - most Brits tend to live down south, in the Algarve area. Personally I prefer the north, maybe around Castelo Branco. Like parts of the US, there is the ever present risk of forest fires, particularly in areas where eucalyptus has been allowed to spread, so choose a base carefully.

Lots to consider - where else is on the agenda?
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My wife and I are both primarily Sicilian. Corsica or Sicily are also being discussed. This is something we have discussed for about 7 to 10 years from now. At retirement, I will not have the coin I should have given my start, so I want to find a place where what I will have may go far.

I like the idea of riding without constraint throughout the EU. And once Putin is history (which will happen), the rest of Asia is also somewhat accessible.
Texas looks like a great place to hangout!

No. You don't want to even consider Texas. Hot, dry, and we're overrun with tax refugees. No water, no electricity. Bad, bad idea. Take a look at Belize. Everyone should go there.
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My wife and I were talking last night about where we would live in retirement; Portugal came up primarily because I insisted it did. I have visited much of the EU over the years, but I have missed Portugal. I understand it is a top-ten destination for expats.

Here is my question; for those familiar with the best places in Portugal to live; where would you choose to spend your days, and how much would you plan for on a yearly basis for budgeting? Can a couple live in Portugal for about $50,000 USD/yr?
What is wrong in the US? You are American I assume from your flag on profile? I just don't get it? You not like your country?
What is wrong in the US? You are American I assume from your flag on profile? I just don't get it? You not like your country?
That is a false equivalency; one has nothing to do with the other.
That is a false equivalency; one has nothing to do with the other.
It absolutely does...
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