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I have used RoboForm for years for passwords and other personal information. This follows me from computer to computer. Since next year when I travel I plan on only taking a I-Pad and not a PC. This is being done to conserve weight and space. I will have to study and learn how to use RoboForm on a I-Pad as well as doing everything that I normally do on a computer. As an added bonus I will get one that is tied to my cell account so it is easier to check the weather and also be able to work from hotel rooms, too many had weak internet this last trip.
With RoboForm changing passwords is easy. I use financial web sites that require you to change your password every 6 months.
I've been using Roboform for many years and it's safe and powerful however I'm not a security specialist.

http://www.roboform.com/
 

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I have used RoboForm for years for passwords and other personal information. This follows me from computer to computer. Since next year when I travel I plan on only taking a I-Pad and not a PC. This is being done to conserve weight and space. I will have to study and learn how to use RoboForm on a I-Pad as well as doing everything that I normally do on a computer. As an added bonus I will get one that is tied to my cell account so it is easier to check the weather and also be able to work from hotel rooms, too many had weak internet this last trip.
With RoboForm changing passwords is easy. I use financial web sites that require you to change your password every 6 months.
You might check out Apple's Keychain app before you load up RoboForm.
 

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Hey all,
If you registered years back and are not sure of your email address used when registering, you may want to go into the User CP to verify or edit it.
You won't get your new password if you have a dead email account.
 

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Ok, I've read through this thread and seen comments on why to change the password, why not to change a password, whining about having to change a password, but nowhere on this site can I find where I can change my password!! Any help from the powers that be would be greatly appreciated!
 

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In the upper right corner of your screen click on USER CP
In the window that opens look at the left column and find Settings and Options and under it find edit email & passwords. click on that and you can change your password in the window that opens.
 

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Password Changes

Just wondering. Not being disrespectful. But would like to share my feelings on this subject.

First of all, Is there any way the members here can have a vote or choice on this? j/k

Actually, this is my number one hated thing about using a computer.
In the last few years, due to the rules, especially the DIFFERENT rules from site to site, program to program, etc., I have just what is stated here; lots of DIFFERENT passwords to remember. I CAN'T do it. I can write them down, but that is a risk in itself. Almost every time I log in to anything, I have to refer to a text file where I store all my passwords. Time consuming to say the least; and risky, since now someone can hack my computer and get that file. (Hackers, look for a file on my desktop named " everything you need to steal my identity and ruin my life.txt ")

Some of the rules for passwords get really crazy.
At work, for example:
Passwords must be changed every month. Must have a capital letter, small letter, number, and symbol. Passwords can not be reused. Can not resemble the login name, or any other information on the account.

I understand that security is important for clients, but when the IT department has to hire more people just to handle all of the extra calls from clients that can't log in to their account, this has become a problem. A client should have the option to use a password of their choice.

Really, what harm can someone do by hacking my forum account; stop me from being able to log in? That will probably happen anyway every time that I forget my password.

And the not so funny thing is, even with all these security rules, one of my accounts still got hacked.

Again, I apologize, but back in the early 90s someone talked me into getting a computer so that I could do things easier, use less paper, and be more efficient. None of that has happened, IMHO.
Best.
Try a password app/program like RoboForm (Best Password Manager & Form Filler | RoboForm). It automatically fills in the information you want, can make strong passwords and is accessed through one password. I use it on my smartphone, tablet and laptop. Plus, you can retrieve passwords from the cloud in you sign up for that version.
 

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What an absolute waste of time and effort ! This site is LOW SECURITY and not the fate of the free world. Having to use a complex password and change it from time to time is ridiculous and simply an IT's person having fun...It's of ZERRO benefit to the end user and just another inconvenience.
 

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When forced to, I'll change my password. I fully understand why complex passwords are needed, but, I don't understand why it has to be 10 characters long, that's freaking ridiculous!
 

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So I have a quick, and in my opinion humorous, story in this subject. Last week I was having lunch with a couple of guys I deal with who I know and respect. Both smart guys. I asked them if they had any experience with these programs to manage passwords. Neither one of them did.

Now, keep in mind that we were at lunch in a restaurant and we all showed up as we normally would for a business meeting....meaning carrying a note pad and some business reports and such. So, one of the guys pulls out his notebook and says "here is where I keep all of my passwords. I carry it with me everywhere".

Nuff said!
 

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The nice thing about Roboform (and probably the others) is the ability to generate and save huge, complex and safe passwords. The password I use for banking is 64 characters long. When I create a password I first check to see the maximum length allowed, and I have Roboform generate a password of that length and (as allowed) upper and lower case letters, numbers, and special characters. The bit strength of such long complex passwords is something like 324 meaning no one is going to guess your password or successfully use a password cracker.

When I want to go to banking, investing, this K1600 site, or any other saved site I just push one button and Roboform takes me to that site, to the login page, enters my username and password, and hits Enter. All with the push of one button.

For security I choose not to use the cloud version and I don't carry my passwords on a thumb drive however Roboform secures both methods.

I must have 200+ accounts that need a username and password, and Roboform handles it all with ease. The free version has a limit on the number of accounts you can save. Give the free version a try on your unimportant accounts and see how you like it.

Another nice feature is the Data Fill feature. Go to a site registration page, or an online shopping checkout page. Hit one button, and your name, address, city, state, zip, phone, etc instantly appears in the correct fields. Saves time. Of course, only the personal data you entered into the software can be output, but if you do it sure speeds up form filling.
 

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OK, seriously irritating. I got the whole change the password thing, so signed in to do so and got the notice that I couldn't do anything until I changed the password. FINE! Only problem, no matter what I did or how many times I signed in, the stupid notice wouldn't go away, and it was locking me out of my settings. I FINALLY tried in Google Chrome rather than Microsoft Edge and was able to complete the process!

Long story short, if you get stuck and you are using Edge, use Chrome....
 

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So, just as a further note, if I sign back into Edge and go to the forum, the notice is STILL blocking all access, so I guess resetting the password does not make it go away.... If you can read this behind that big notice, GO TO CHROME!
 

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Well until this moment I wasn't aware we were logging into the DoD, obviously we share quite a few state and national security secrets to make a password rule-set so strict. We must protect those idea, thoughts and photos of our motorcycles. If you get the idea that this is rediculous, well it is. Just another admin with power to control.:mad:
 

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Really, You claim you are making it more secure by sending everyone their new password in clear text ??
Which the admin obviously knows for everyone now. Anyone who can see the sent items folder for the passwords.
Anyone who has seen the password on any device the end user has.
I am sure some of you can think of other weaknesses of this system.

This is a terrible way to claim you are increasing security.
Seems more designed to annoy people.
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I changed my password as soon as I used the temporary password that was emailed to me. Total time invested: 2 minutes (plus the time to type this posting).
2 minutes.... D amn your slow... LOL :surprise:

I do have to jump on the 'stupid' bandwagon. I was shocked to see 10 character minimum. Not even my bank requires 10 characters. The standard for strict passwords start at 8. Really Admin?!? What are you trying to protect us from... Someone might login as me and offend someone... I've already done that myself multiple times. LOL
 

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Well I just tested a typical 64 character banking password generated by Roboform and I'm good to go!

Time Required to Exhaustively Search this Password's Space:

Online Attack Scenario:
(Assuming one thousand guesses per second)1.21 million trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion centuries

Offline Fast Attack Scenario:
(Assuming one hundred billion guesses per second)12.06 billion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion centuries

Massive Cracking Array Scenario:
(Assuming one hundred trillion guesses per second)12.06 million trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion centuries


Then I tried something simple like "gooddog" and I'm afraid that one needs some work"

Time Required to Exhaustively Search this Password's Space:

Online Attack Scenario:
(Assuming one thousand guesses per second)3.72 days

Offline Fast Attack Scenario:
(Assuming one hundred billion guesses per second)0.00321 seconds

Massive Cracking Array Scenario:
(Assuming one hundred trillion guesses per second)0.00000321 seconds
 

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GoodDog1961!

It doesn't take much to get a tough password. It might be boring to some but read the page for hacker logic. It's facinating. Gibberish characters are not necessary to make a good password but there's no reason not to have a scrambled word if one feels better having that.
 

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So, just as a further note, if I sign back into Edge and go to the forum, the notice is STILL blocking all access, so I guess resetting the password does not make it go away.... If you can read this behind that big notice, GO TO CHROME!

You can also when in edge set it to compatibility to mode.

Helena
 
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