That about sums it up for our American icon, but to each their own. I do think everyone on this forum has one thing in common we all like riding a motorcycle, and yes we pretty much all have different opinions on tires, oil, seats, helmets and on and on.
Don't disagree with you. Simply accept the fact that a Harley is what it is. Rode them for 28 years. I'd own a Harley along with my B if I could afford both. Prefer the B as my only bike. Because it's spoiled me.Haters are gonna hate! Harley is not just an American icon but an international icon, with dealerships all over the world.
Coming from a Harley (forums), I've heard many more complaints (B&M), on this forum than most Harley forums, which is reflected in motorcycle customer satisfaction surveys.
All bikes have their issues and appeal to various styles of riding and appreciation of aesthetics, and performance levels.
The opinions that really count are where people are willing to put their hard earned dollars. Fewer sales translates to fewer dealerships, price also consdered.
I love my K1600B, but I still love Harley as well. It's all good!
Don't disagree with you. Simply accept the fact that a Harley is what it is. Rode them for 28 years. I'd own a Harley along with my B if I could afford both. Prefer the B as my only bike. Because it's spoiled me.
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I don't hate the Motor Company, though I'd admit that I'm not happy with many of the people who ride their products who have dictated how the Motor Company should design their bikes (e.g. air cooled, v-twin, driveway eye candy) holding them back from moving forward. I've heard more then one established H-D owner say they would not own a new one because they where too complicated and couldn't work on it. When I asked they where referring to they mentioned fuel injection, electronics... that sort of thing. These particular riders I was talking to had open pipes, various stage engine kits, and other less then neighborhood friendly attributes to their bikes. We all know that when left stock the Harley's are reliable and perform adequately to get the job done.Haters are gonna hate! Harley is not just an American icon but an international icon, with dealerships all over the world.
The first statement is incorrect. Actually, that guy is a guy who gave H-D his money for a Buell he loves, and thinks they gave Erik Buell the shaft. So does he have an axe to grind? Yes, he does, and he's admitted it. But it’s not the axe you think.That video was just a cheap shot by a Harley hater.
If you don't like it, don't buy it, but please keep your negative comments to yourself.
Nailed it!I came of age in the late 70s, early 80s. And I rode Japanese manufactured bikes. The HD crowd referred to them derogatorily as "rice burners". We didn't care so much and adopted it and made it our own so it didn't sting as much as it was intended to. When I rode down the road, every other make of bike (mostly 'wings) would hand gesture or wave. But 1 in a 100 HD riders would recognize a fellow motorcycle enthusiast on any other brand than HD. Now, being a bit of a problem youth, I hung out at keggers and band parties with plenty of HD guys. And they were as sweet and kind as any other beer drinker at those types of soirees. So individually, like in most circumstances, they didn't have attitude toward any other bike riding individuals. But the group think mentality common to us all, affected them to identify with their tribe of HD pirates and look down on the other tribes of other-than-HD riders. And it was palpable. And frankly, I got tired of it. Eff some of those guys. I didn't appreciate their condescension. Still don't. I don't know the ratio, but sooo many of the guys riding want to ID with the 1%ers. So a LOT of them are just posers. A minority fraction are guys who just like the comfort and ride of the glide etc. One on one, as individuals, I get along with them as they do with me. I ride with some on occasion. But there is some truth in the stereotypes played up in the video. And I'm guilty of some of the BMW stereotypes as well. And would be if I rode a 'wing. Or adventure bike. Or scrambler. As consumers some of the basis of purchase is identifying with the brand. The good, and the not so good. It's just a video poking fun at some of the stereotypes many folks outside of HD find absurd. They are some of the reasons we don't make that purchase and don't want to be identified with that brand. They outnumber all other bikes on the road combined if I'm not mistaken. If the ribbing is annoying to folks, I suggest that perhaps too much of their personal ID is wrapped up in the branding. I hope HD thrives and overcomes its challenges well into the future. My heart still bumps when I hear that exhaust thump like it did when I was a little kid. A gorgeous HD makes me feel nostalgic. I have respect in my heart. But there has also been a slight turning in the tide. Dad told me, if you can't take it, don't dish it out. The leather vest ought to deflect some of the barbs.