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I know that these mask the noise, but I wonder if, even though you are not hearing the sound, if it is still penetrating your ears. Not sure if I'm asking the correct question, but it is the noise that causes fatigue and over a long period of time, tinnitus in many people.

Can the noise you are not hearing, cause damage? Is masking really blocking?

No....that isn't how noise cancelling works.

It works by actually cancelling the sound. Sound is waves of pressure pushing and pulling on your eardrum. When a noise cancelling earbud detects a push from outside, it creates a pull of equal strength. The net effect is that neither a push nor a pull makes it to your eardrum. They're not 100% effective, but the amount that is left and the amount added by the noise cancellation that is not offset is a small fraction of the original noise.
 

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I am a true believer in using ear plugs and use them each and every time I ride. Over the years I have tried almost everything from foam, to molded to electronic but find myself gravitating back to foam which I use for a few times and then discard without the inconvenience of cleaning. About 25-30 dB reduction at the low frequencies muffles most engine and some wind noises while allowing me adequate awareness of surroundings.
I ride with a modular Shoei and Sena SRL comm. inter-phased with the bike so all comm, GPS instructions, music, phone calls, etc come though the Sena.
 

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I am a true believer in using ear plugs and use them each and every time I ride. Over the years I have tried almost everything from foam, to molded to electronic but find myself gravitating back to foam which I use for a few times and then discard without the inconvenience of cleaning. About 25-30 dB reduction at the low frequencies muffles most engine and some wind noises while allowing me adequate awareness of surroundings.
I ride with a modular Shoei and Sena SRL comm. inter-phased with the bike so all comm, GPS instructions, music, phone calls, etc come though the Sena.
Years ago when I was using ear plugs daily, they were the simple Hearos foams. I didn't use a comm system or otherwise listen to music at the time, so foam plugs did the trick. Based on my past experience, I thought foam plugs wouldn't work well with Comm system functions. Coincidentally, I just found an old bag of Hearos that I thought were long gone. I'll try them out with my comm system (similar set up to yours) to see how they compare to the EarPeace plugs.

I took a ride yesterday without the EarPeace plugs to compare the with/without experiences while it was fresh in my mind. When I started music, the volume setting left over from the previous day EarPeace ride almost blew my ears out. It was almost maxed. I underestimated how much I had turned up the volume to compensate for all the noise (and music level) reduction. The medium level 20 EarPeace SNR filter installed out of the box is probably too much reduction for effective music and intercom system use. I'm going to try out the included lower level 17 SNR filter to see if it's a better compromise.

BTW, that modular Shoei NeoTec2 is a great helmet. Good choice. :tb
 

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For me, Bose QC-20 ear buds are the best thing out there. I can ride 6 hours straight at 85mph like last weekend and I was in peace & quiet the entire time. No fatigue or drone whatsoever. No popping, just bliss.
I religiously use Bose quietcontrol 30 noise canceling. Has an Bose IOS app that allows you to adjust the noise canceling. Bluetooth. And have added Bluetooth “big buttons” remote to phone to control volume, tracks, and play/ pause with gloves on easily. Great setup. I will cancel at about 3/4, full if on interstate noise and long run. Music is great when knocking out the other noise. My ears thank me.
 

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In town I ride with the visor up, but over 45mph I keep my visor down. After I put on a 7Jurock windshield and some masking tape over the ear bud sensor ports, it eliminated the turbulence, and as such, eliminatinated the popping. I really get next to no pops at all, even with cruise set at 85.
The masking tape is a great idea; the sensor ports - are they the small holes on the outside of the earbuds?
 

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The masking tape is a great idea; the sensor ports - are they the small holes on the outside of the earbuds?
Yes, that's what I'm calling the sensor ports. I really have no idea what those holes are or do, but I read on another form that it helps with the popping, so I tried it. I actually found the 7Jurock windshield to be the biggest influencer at preventing the popping. And a good fitting, quality full-face/modular helmet.
 

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@atc250r, pretty good bet the holes are air holes to alleviate feedback/pressure; all of the hearing aids I've ever had have air holes.

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Yes, I can wear them all day, 600+ miles without any discomfort. They do not press at all. But, I have a modular helmet and that makes putting the helmet on/off much easier. Without a modular, I might not like the Bose quite as much, not sure. But then again, I would never buy a non-modular helmet so I like how they work together. The cool thing about the Bose is they have a 30-day (or is it 90?) money-back guarantee for ANY reason, so you have nothing to lose.
I have the Bose QC 20 and wear them with my Aria Signet x full face helmet. They are the most comfortable earbuds that I’ve ever worn bar none, and I’ve worn them all! The sound quality is excellent and the noise cancelling is superb. They are easy to put on and don’t come loose or out of place when putting my helmet on as some others have. Overall, they are game changer for me in the ear protection/audio/communication areas.
 

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If I get tired of all the noise, I just insert some tissue paper. Works for me.
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I got something like those a while back and a tiny warning to you, attach a thin nylon string to the base of the hard plastic, approx an inch long so you can pull them out incase they are too deep. The wax on your ear will make it very hard to grab and pull them out over time. They should have had a longer tab on them. Also, make sure you wash them once a month with warm water and dish soap.
 

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For me, Bose QC-20 ear buds are the best thing out there. I can ride 6 hours straight at 85mph like last weekend and I was in peace & quiet the entire time. No fatigue or drone whatsoever. No popping, just bliss.
Is there a way to plug this into BMW's audio system or are you doing it stand alone into another audio system?
 

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Is there a way to plug this into BMW's audio system or are you doing it stand alone into another audio system?
It can be done either way. Just plugging them directly into your phone is the cheap and easy way, and requires none of the below items.

But I bought a few items that made it integrate with the bike, so I can listen to my bikes satellite radio, GPS Nav guidance, music or Waze from my phone, and radar detector alerts. And with the exception of the radar detector alerts, volume and song track are controlled via the wonderwheel. It really is the cats ass way of doing audio on this bike.

All you need to do this is a Motochello Speaker Bridge, which will reside under the seat

https://www.motochello.com/audio-speaker-bridge/?doing_wp_cron=1570662279.3701069355010986328125

And a 3 foot long 3.5mm audio extension cable

https://www.amazon.com/CableCreation-Female-Extension-Adapter-Connector/dp/B01K3WY90Q/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2E95BET39TO5E&keywords=3.5+mm+extension+cable&qid=1570662504&s=electronics&sprefix=3.5+,electronics,264&sr=1-4&th=1

And the BMW iPhone adapter for the right compartment

https://www.amazon.com/BMW-61-12-2-408-012-Adapter-Music-Media/dp/B016KC0W04 (Confirm this is the correct part for K1600. I looked it up real quickly)

And if you want radar alerts, you also need

A 3.5 audio splitter

https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Splitter-Syncwire-Nylon-Braided-Stereo/dp/B07431YDWM/ref=sr_1_3?crid=73ZR7OA9EJIL&keywords=3.5+mm+splitter&qid=1570662556&s=electronics&sprefix=3.5+mm+,electronics,228&sr=1-3

And this is compatible with my Escort

https://www.escortradar.com/products/motorcycle_adapter

It sounds like a lot of stuff, but it’s totally worth it. Everything is hidden, and having control with the wonderwheel is priceless.

I would do the exact same set-up on my next bike too. I wouldn’t change a thing. It took a lot of trial and error to get this working, but I’ve done all the hard work and now it’s easy for anyone else to do.

With the Bose, I can ride in silence, just phone music playing softly and then a radar alert will be heard over the music. Or I can be listening to GPS navigation instructions, and all of it at a nice low volume thanks to the Bose noise-cancelling
 

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It can be done either way. Just plugging them directly into your phone is the cheap and easy way, and requires none of the below items.

But I bought a few items that made it integrate with the bike, so I can listen to my bikes satellite radio, GPS Nav guidance, music or Waze from my phone, and radar detector alerts. And with the exception of the radar detector alerts, volume and song track are controlled via the wonderwheel. It really is the cats ass way of doing audio on this bike.

All you need to do this is a Motochello Speaker Bridge, which will reside under the seat

https://www.motochello.com/audio-speaker-bridge/?doing_wp_cron=1570662279.3701069355010986328125

And a 3 foot long 3.5mm audio extension cable

https://www.amazon.com/CableCreation-Female-Extension-Adapter-Connector/dp/B01K3WY90Q/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2E95BET39TO5E&keywords=3.5+mm+extension+cable&qid=1570662504&s=electronics&sprefix=3.5+,electronics,264&sr=1-4&th=1

And the BMW iPhone adapter for the right compartment

https://www.amazon.com/BMW-61-12-2-408-012-Adapter-Music-Media/dp/B016KC0W04 (Confirm this is the correct part for K1600. I looked it up real quickly)

And if you want radar alerts, you also need

A 3.5 audio splitter

https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Splitter-Syncwire-Nylon-Braided-Stereo/dp/B07431YDWM/ref=sr_1_3?crid=73ZR7OA9EJIL&keywords=3.5+mm+splitter&qid=1570662556&s=electronics&sprefix=3.5+mm+,electronics,228&sr=1-3

And this is compatible with my Escort

https://www.escortradar.com/products/motorcycle_adapter

It sounds like a lot of stuff, but it’s totally worth it. Everything is hidden, and having control with the wonderwheel is priceless.

I would do the exact same set-up on my next bike too. I wouldn’t change a thing. It took a lot of trial and error to get this working, but I’ve done all the hard work and now it’s easy for anyone else to do.

With the Bose, I can ride in silence, just phone music playing softly and then a radar alert will be heard over the music. Or I can be listening to GPS navigation instructions, and all of it at a nice low volume thanks to the Bose noise-cancelling
THANK YOU...

For all of the work that you put into this and the detailed answer, thanks just doesn't seem to be enough ! I appreciate all of the information and will get started.

The Motochello web site has a lot of good info on the installation. Good instructions and video. thanks !!
 

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THANK YOU...

For all of the work that you put into this and the detailed answer, thanks just doesn't seem to be enough ! I appreciate all of the information and will get started.

The Motochello web site has a lot of good info on the installation. Good instructions and video. thanks !!
You’re welcome. I omitted this male-male cable you also need, to run from the Motochello to the splitter, which you’ll leave at the handlebars. I’ve linked to the 6’ long cable, which should be plenty to run under the gas tank and will remain in place permanently.

https://www.amazon.com/Syncwire-Braided-Auxiliary-Adapter-Headphones/dp/B01KZC1EAW/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=6+3.5+male+male&qid=1570676575&s=automotive&sr=1-1&th=1
 

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THANK YOU...

For all of the work that you put into this and the detailed answer, thanks just doesn't seem to be enough ! I appreciate all of the information and will get started.

The Motochello web site has a lot of good info on the installation. Good instructions and video. thanks !!
Whatever you do, don't put your iPhone in the lower right compartment (if it even fits). It gets way too hot in there for electronics. Instead, use a Tune2Air to have the phone elsewhere and have it link into the bike through bluetooth.

Also, the suggested ground loop isolator from Excore is outrageously priced at $40. I got this one for $7...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JUOWB2Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It is out of stock, but this one appears to be the same...


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XQYN77L/ref=sspa_dk_hqp_detail_aax_0?psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyWlZFQU83VTFWVjZCJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTY3MzE5MThWMVhLN1lDNlZIRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTE2ODE2WVAwMFhSRDFJM01FJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfaHFwX3NoYXJlZCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
 

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Whatever you do, don't put your iPhone in the lower right compartment (if it even fits). It gets way too hot in there for electronics. Instead, use a Tune2Air to have the phone elsewhere and have it link into the bike through bluetooth.

Also, the suggested ground loop isolator from Excore is outrageously priced at $40. I got this one for $7...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JUOWB2Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It is out of stock, but this one appears to be the same...


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XQYN77L/ref=sspa_dk_hqp_detail_aax_0?psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyWlZFQU83VTFWVjZCJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTY3MzE5MThWMVhLN1lDNlZIRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTE2ODE2WVAwMFhSRDFJM01FJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfaHFwX3NoYXJlZCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
All that I'm wanting to do is to hear the audio of my BMW through the Bose QC-20 ear bud.
 

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All that I'm wanting to do is to hear the audio of my BMW through the Bose QC-20 ear bud.
Motochello adapter is about all you need then. That plus an extension to bring its connector out so you can plug your qc-20's into it.
 

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Motochello adapter is about all you need then. That plus an extension to bring its connector out so you can plug your qc-20's into it.

Very informative. If you have the wireless qc-30’s then you just need the Motochello adapter?
 

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Very informative. If you have the wireless qc-30’s then you just need the Motochello adapter?
No, you need more. The Motochello is a hardwired solution only. You'll need to add the SM10 to it to get wireless (BT) out of the setup.
 
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