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Oh my goodness. I want this feeling on mine. I have the wobble and leaning when both panniers are completely empty. I’ve done so much to eliminate bike settings, carry-one and rider position as the possible culprit. At this point there’s something wrong with the bike IMO
Mines fine, I expect a little movement in dirty air on what is effectveley a sail
 

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The GT and GTL does not have this problem.

The K1600GA is speed limited to 100 mph.

IMHO the only reason BMW would do this would be because instability was detected in wind tunnel testing.

The GA design added floor boards which IMHO contribute to front wheel lift at speed. With the GA this is made worse because the Top Box is mounted so far back which again will cause the front wheel to rise at speed. This becomes very noticeable on any motorcycle in turbulent air around large vehicles, or in cross winds.
Would a fork brace(added_weight) to the forks on top of the fender help?
 

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No, worries @jorgebri60 I believe you. I have believed everyone who says it. I was just watching a YouTube reviewer say the exact same thing - I believed him. I'm willing to accept that I am in the minority and lucky.

I just don't like the characterization by the GTL/GT guys that their bike absolutely, cannot, ever, and has never had a wobble and that all B's are inferior and guaranteed to wobble. It's a weird bias and superiority thing I've felt amongst the pilots here.
I would think a fork brace or adding some weight to the front would help the stability. I really want a 1600 B but this issue is scaring me away. I've also seen complaints from GTL guys too and people who remove the floorboard are still complaining about this issue
 

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I would think a fork brace or adding some weight to the front would help the stability. I really want a 1600 B but this issue is scaring me away. I've also seen complaints from GTL guys too and people who remove the floorboard are still complaining about this issue
The GTL has absolutely no stability issues. :rolleyes:
 

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@Sunken_Seaman I commented on another of your posts re: for fork brace. Have you been able to locate a manufacturer or vendor for one? If so, obtaining one isn't the issue. It's finding the forks on a K that's the real problem.
 

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I just jumped on. Have a '21 GA and definitely have the wobble. Feels like riding on grooved pavement above 70 MPH. Shame since I really wanted to love this bike. Bought it because the pillion height is lower, easier for my wife to mount, than the GTL. She hates the back of my GS... Yet the "wobble" is so unnerving that after 800 miles on the odometer, I just don't ride the bike any longer. Swapped the tires for RP5s and took the boards off. Still the same. Sucks because this was going to be my highway machine. Very disappointed in BMW over this. This is just my two cents...
Im not buying one simply because of this post. I test drove one and really like it.(15 mins) I've heard some people say the AeroWings helped and other blame the wings. I would think adding weight to the fender(superbrace) somehow would plant the tire better. Have you found a solution? I also seen post from GTL riders about this also so its not just the B/GA
 

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@Sunken_Seaman I commented on another of your posts re: for fork brace. Have you been able to locate a manufacturer or vendor for one? If so, obtaining one isn't the issue. It's finding the forks on a K that's the real problem.
No but I was thinking anyway to add weight too the front. Maybe a machinist to make a brace for it. Im really thinking hard :(
 

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I also seen post from GTL riders about this also so its not just the B/GA
Repeating an untruth doesn't magically make it true. Post what you've "seen" for some discussion.

BTW, check this GA review out:


It's one of the more through and balanced I've seen.
 

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Add weight to the front of a motorcycle? Surely yea jest... That would absolutely destroy the handling. Although not a fan, I've ridden the B. I did NOT find it unstable at ALL. If you're coming from a thousand pound Harley to any of the K bikes you're going to notice a difference in tracking. All K bikes have a 120/70-17 front tire and it is a great performance/handling tire; e.g. it's much more response than the HD 130/80.

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@Sunken_Seaman You will receive a great deal of ribbing over your suggestion to add a fork brace to the front of a K1600 because the bike (none of the variants) have front forks in the conventional sense. Instead they have what BMW call "Duolever" front suspension, that is something originally invented by an English guy called Norman Hossack in the mid-1970's. On the K1600 the front wheel is supported by a massively strong and rigid front suspension single-piece "fork". The last thing it needs is more rigidity (the prime function of a fork brace) as it already has that in spades.

Secondly, adding unsprung mass to the suspension (which you are suggesting) is always a bad idea.

Thirdly, neither the GT nor GTL versions of the K1600 exhibit any instability at any speed (unless they have a faulty suspension component), up to and including 150mph, ever.

Finally, the B/GA is not unstable in the general sense, but is generally accepted to have a high-speed aero-related characteristic in dirty air that some find disconcerting. Others simply ride the thing and are happy.

HTH?
 

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Last big heavy bike I rode before the K1600s was about 10 years ago, on a VTX 1800R. That bike was planted solid no matter what the speed, or surrounding traffic. I've even had other riders comment that they saw some bikes moving around as we passed big rigs, but I looked like a freeze frame.

Since then I've owned a GTL, a GT, and now a B. The whole K1600 series is not as planted as that VTX. We all experience some amount of movement at high speeds. Invariably, different people will report this differently on different models, etc. I always read a rider's report with a grain of salt. How shall I put this? There are different levels of expectations and sensitivities amongst riders.

That said, on the B, I have too experienced some level of movement at speed. A little more than the other models. That doesn't mean hanging on for dear life. Far from it. My bigger concern at first was getting the right windshield so my head wasn't getting slapped around. And that is solved now. I've also replaced the stock BattleAx with the RS4, which has made a difference all around.

It's a matter of perspective. I'm calling it a "little movement". Others are calling it "instability". That's a gross overstatement. Have we not all ridden unstable bikes in our lives? This is not one of them.
 

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Justed picked in.... I'm getting affraid here..... Ordered a K1600B GA, still waiting on the delivery.... Didn't notice any wobble on the test ride.... Had a passenger with me, so I don't know....
Read here that it is less stable than a HD.... Well that scares me even more... My old VMAX (1994) wobbled a lot in corners at high speed, so I was used to some things.... Last wobble I had was on a test ride with a HD street glide..... Pushed it through a long turn at 90mph with a passenger in the back (It's a test ride for something....) and it didn't liked that.... Felt like my old VMAX.... It wobbled, but ignoring it instead of fighting it resulted in stopping the wobble when the turn gets straighted out... Had no issues with stability with the GW, K1600GT and the K1600B GA test ride..... But now, when I read all this posts, think I get scared....
 

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Justed picked in.... I'm getting affraid here..... Ordered a K1600B GA, still waiting on the delivery.... Didn't notice any wobble on the test ride.... Had a passenger with me, so I don't know....
Read here that it is less stable than a HD.... Well that scares me even more... My old VMAX (1994) wobbled a lot in corners at high speed, so I was used to some things.... Last wobble I had was on a test ride with a HD street glide..... Pushed it through a long turn at 90mph with a passenger in the back (It's a test ride for something....) and it didn't liked that.... Felt like my old VMAX.... It wobbled, but ignoring it instead of fighting it resulted in stopping the wobble when the turn gets straighted out... Had no issues with stability with the GW, K1600GT and the K1600B GA test ride..... But now, when I read all this posts, think I get scared....
Set your mind at ease. This bike will NOT wobble on corners or turns. Quite the contrary, it’s where the bike shines. The “wobble” is nothing more than a slight weave on straight roads generally with heavy traffic and it’s windy. Nothing serious or dangerous. It’s a bit unnerving the first time you experience it, but it’s fine and nothing to be concerned with. 50mph or 150mph you’ll get a slight weave if conditions are right. ITS FINE!!!
 

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Set your mind at ease. This bike will NOT wobble on corners or turns. Quite the contrary, it’s where the bike shines. The “wobble” is nothing more than a slight weave on straight roads generally with heavy traffic and it’s windy. Nothing serious or dangerous. It’s a bit unnerving the first time you experience it, but it’s fine and nothing to be concerned with. 50mph or 150mph you’ll get a slight weave if conditions are right. ITS FINE!!!
If it's a weave, Is it solvable with a steering damper? I believe that there is one from factory, but maybe an adjustable one or something?
 

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I test road a 22/23 GA when i n Sturgis last year. I wanted to feel this wobble I've heard about but didn't feel a thing. Although there was no traffic or big rigs to get behind, which is were I understand the wobble occures.
 
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