If that's the display integration then clearly RT doesn't mean Refined and Tasteful. Looks a bit aftermarket, maybe wunderlich will sell an integration kit.I was just a bit taken back by the new screen just standing out there in space ....almost like very little effort to integrate it into the dash, and yes I understand it needs to be removable. Maybe these are prototypes as I would expect more from a finished design. Otherwise cool -
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The small display between the analog speedo and tach is a TFT display (thin film technology). The new 1250 features a larger and high resolution version of it.I noticed that too when I built mine up. I still bought the 2020 and took the 0%- 60 month financing instead. I think they are just referring to the screen now that has some TFT or thin film technology in the cluster. If it does at that, I may be wrong. Just an assumption from me based on a photo I found somewhere saying TFT and showed the screen now. The current changes I found on the 2021 were a color upgrade and some items that were dropped individually are now included in the packages. Other then a color change, I didn't think there is a so called TFT like the RT has. Need the experts to chime in if they have any info. I really love this 2020 GA though!
The 2021 models have different colour options. The 2021 BMW R1250RT will be offered in Alpine White 3, a grayish green Manhattan metallic, Racing Blue, or the Option 719 Mineral White metallic.I bought the last 1600 GT option 719 planet blue I have been told........
You could be right - ”halo” models are powerful marketing tools in the automotive sector - but there are a few data points that suggest otherwise.I don't think the K16 will go, it's like the whole M cars will go story
The 2021 model details were released back in July, and my White 2021 K1600GT is due delivery early November. I held off changing last year as I was hoping for the TFT to be introduced, but 3 years and 130,000km has arrived and I’m not waiting any longer!The 2021 B and the 2021 GA are listed on the official BMW Motorad website with the updated colors, etc. The GT/GTL not yet...in support of @Gunnert, if the B and GA are in the mix for 2021, why not the GT and the GTL? I'm going with cup half full. They will be available.
The site is not up to date for the new RT, FWIW.
The K16 display is and always has been a TFT. The Speedo and rpm displays look analogue but are a digital representation.The small display between the analog speedo and tach is a TFT display (thin film technology). The new 1250 features a larger and high resolution version of it.
I moved from a Honda Blackbird to a RT back in 2005 and the boxer engine felt "Agricultural". I moved to the K16 in 2012 and could not believe the smoothness. I moved from the K16 to a R1250RT last year and was amazed at how refined the boxer had become, its not as smooth as a K16 but its not far off it IMHOHad boxer RT in 2003-2008, never liked that engine, won't be going back, if BMW kills the K1600, Yamaha FJR awaits
There maybe a case for some (misplaced?) optimism.The development timescale and cost to achieve Euro5 compliance is significant, so if the K1600 were to continue in Euro5 guise that work would have had to have been under way many, many months ago and it makes little sense to leave it this late in the game to bring that work to market.
My gut feel remains that the current K1600 is the end of the line.
You should ride the new 1250. I rode the 1250 GSA (which is admittedly not the same bike, but it is the same engine and transmission AFAIK) and was very surprised by the available torque all through the rev range. It won't keep up with the 1600 in the upper rev limits, but it won't be far behind either.Had boxer RT in 2003-2008, never liked that engine, won't be going back, if BMW kills the K1600, Yamaha FJR awaits
I hope they redesign the dash so that a touch-screen TFT is easily reached by the rider. I'm tall, with a considerable wingspan, but even I find it a stretch to touch the NAV 6 screen while riding. It would be nice to move all of that closer to the rider (maybe over / above the bars) to make it easier to reach, and then construct a shroud that pulls even further back to help shade all of it from the sun to minimize wash-out, reflections, and help keep the sound from the speakers from being diffused by the wind. Hopefully I'm describing all of that in a way that easy to visualize.So I guess these features will be in the next K16 version
Adaptive cruise control
Phone compartment with fan and USB
Digital display but different to 1200RT as it was in the analogue versions
The mobile phone compartment with cooling will be the most welcome addition if done well. The RT has a compartment at the top that I always missed on the K16
I think the new GW dash is fugly, but to each his own. I'm not yet decided on this new RT dash- will probably have to see it in person. One thing that stands out to me is that with the large TFT completely unshrouded, sunlight washout and reflections are going to be hard to combat. I would like to see the display moved closer to the rider (bigger visual sense of the same size display, and easier to reach for touch-screen functions) and deeply shrouded to minimize the effects of sunlight, etc.I don't like the new version of the combined brakes one bit. The current version allows me to use the rear brake in hairpin turns to modulate speed and load of the engine without affecting the steering, with the new version I am afraid that it will lead to some unpredictable behavior when attempting hairpin turns with the rear brake. I could be wrong though.
The lack of integration of the display into the dash is all too visible and reminds me of some car application with an alien object sticking out of the dash. Why does it have to look like somebody forgot an iPad in the docking station or somebody forgot the diagnostic panel in an electrical cubical? Look at the stylish integration of a large display on a Honda GoldWing and you have a reference point.
With all the GPS functions there, that would be a bit of a disappointment. I would think it would make selecting a detour based on traffic delays much harder (depending on how it's programmed) for example.
None of the TFT screens on the BMW bikes are touch screens. The controls are very easy to use so I don't think they ever will be. I have the GS with the TFT display and there are no washouts. It's amazingly clear even in bright sun.I hope they redesign the dash so that a touch-screen TFT is easily reached by the rider. I'm tall, with a considerable wingspan, but even I find it a stretch to touch the NAV 6 screen while riding. It would be nice to move all of that closer to the rider (maybe over / above the bars) to make it easier to reach, and then construct a shroud that pulls even further back to help shade all of it from the sun to minimize wash-out, reflections, and help keep the sound from the speakers from being diffused by the wind. Hopefully I'm describing all of that in a way that easy to visualize.