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I wonder if any of the police forces around the world will be using the K1600 as a police bike seeing that some forces are useing the GTR 1400 , R1200 RT . FJR 1300 , ST1300 and more different bikes .
 

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A bit off-topic, but my dealer gave me a R1200 RT police bike trade-in as a loaner overnight. No lights or siren, but all the right black and white markings. I dug out my old white helmet and decided to have some fun on the expressway. Remarkable responses when you get on a speeder's tail; one kid almost lost control trying to brake and pull over at the same time.

As far as BMW police bikes in the States, I don't think so. Motor officers I talk to say the Midwest States prefer Harleys for political reasons and everyone is paranoid of higher maintenance costs over the Japanese brands.
 

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I don't know what the GTR14 can be had for in the UK, but in the US, some dealers are selling them for around $12000. It makes no economical sense to spend tax payer $$ on a K16.. but common sense and politicians sometimes don't mix. :lol:
 

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The GTR and K16 are a similar price for the base models in the UK, as is the FJR which is just ridicules.
Here the police use a mixture of RTs FJRs and Pan Europeans (honda STs) for their patrols. They also use unmarked K1300S in a police spec when they require something high speed, plus various other exotic unmarked bikes for catching speeders or surveillance.
I've said this before, but the K16GT would be perfect , offering the all day comfort and utilitarian properties of the R12RT mixed with the high speed capabilities of the K13S
 

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I don't know what the GTR14 can be had for in the UK, but in the US, some dealers are selling them for around $12000. It makes no economical sense to spend tax payer $$ on a K16.. but common sense and politicians sometimes don't mix. :lol:

C'mon, be fair, there's no need for that "sometimes".
 

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The department I work for in Arizona has 6 BMW's. I think it is very unlikely they will go to the K1600. Mainly because of the cost.
 

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Our State Police (VicPol) have BMW's only for their solo fleet, about 30 1200RTP's and a bunch of unmarked K1300GTs plus a couple of K1300S to throw into the mix.

If BMW produce a police version of the K16 they'll buy them, without a doubt. The RT is just too slow in the top end to make it a proper pursuit bike
 

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common sense and politicians have yet to mix. Those dingleberrys fair to remember that it is my money they are spending. I vote, therefore I can complain.
 

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I wonder if any of the police forces around the world will be using the K1600 as a police bike seeing that some forces are useing the GTR 1400 , R1200 RT . FJR 1300 , ST1300 and more different bikes .
I bet you that bmw have produced a batch for the police Authorities to try out .We will see .
 

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The RTP is a great Police bike butmany departments are going the more traditional HD route because of cost. HD has offered very low cost plans to agencies just to keep them on the road. In these economic times the cost of the GT would be prohibative.

Another consideration is that many departments are not allowing motor units to pursue. The liabilaty far outweighs the gains. Thats another reason the HDs are popular. The highspeed wobble is not an issue in most traffic situations. They just have the cool factor of the traditional Police Bike.
 

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I wonder if any of the police forces around the world will be using the K1600 as a police bike seeing that some forces are useing the GTR 1400 , R1200 RT . FJR 1300 , ST1300 and more different bikes .
I posted elsewhere, but our State Police (VicPol) have one K1600GT online, with two more in the pipeline. Unmarked, of course.....:eek:
 

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Dutch police indeed has a few K1600Gts. Over here I am sure they will pop up to. But each police zone can choose their own cars and bikes. My zone uses the 1200RT. Others use 1400GTR or the FJR. The difference in price is often neglectable since the government gets better deals and the little price difference is just a fraction of the total cost of the system (including the policeofficers). And over here they got to much money since the recieve a % off all fines issued.
 

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The California Highway Patrol (CHIPS) has finished evaluation and they're migrating from the RT to the Connies. One of the main factors, I hear, was the maintenance cost, and in particular the cost of clutch replacement. Higher on their priority than top-end speed has been low speed maneuverability, and one of the main obstacles in the way of the big Kaw was their lock-to-lock steering.
 

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The California Highway Patrol (CHIPS) has finished evaluation and they're migrating from the RT to the Connies. One of the main factors, I hear, was the maintenance cost, and in particular the cost of clutch replacement. Higher on their priority than top-end speed has been low speed maneuverability, and one of the main obstacles in the way of the big Kaw was their lock-to-lock steering.
I read about that.. There are pictures here...

CHP Adopts Kawasaki's Concours 14 P Motorcycle - News - Government Fleet
 

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Spoke to a few CHP motor officers about a month ago. They were not happy about giving up their RTs for Connies. They figure it is all about CA getting a better deal from Kaw vs BMW. BMW are selling all they make and a big chunk of dealer profit comes from how many RTs and K1600s (along with GSs and S1000RRs) they can get. So, why create a shortage and possibly hurt their dealer network for a zero (or negative) profit deal with a government. Also, how many motorcyclists do you know are choosing their rides because the cops tooling around on one?
 

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Spoke to a few CHP motor officers about a month ago. They were not happy about giving up their RTs for Connies. They figure it is all about CA getting a better deal from Kaw vs BMW. BMW are selling all they make and a big chunk of dealer profit comes from how many RTs and K1600s (along with GSs and S1000RRs) they can get. So, why create a shortage and possibly hurt their dealer network for a zero (or negative) profit deal with a government. Also, how many motorcyclists do you know are choosing their rides because the cops tooling around on one?
In my view there's a certain critical mass, a production number which is the objective of every manufacturer. And then there's the prestige factor.
The dealers business model is a tripod: Sales, service and accessories. And the dealers have a break-even number, above which they begin to receive a return on investment. Although sales on CHIP bikes do not return normal margins, the loss of sales and service will have a substantial impact on operations, since break even will remain as it was.

On the other hand there's a silver lining: With the water cooled boxer around the corner and the industry wide trend for extended service intervals, I remain hopeful BMW will engineer the next-gen boxers to address some of the concerns LEO's and Public Agencies have expressed.

The old status quo is insufficient in these days of economic efficiencies. If BMW responds with the correct product they will be able to compete in the next go 'round. In the meanwhile we'll all benefit from an even better Boxer, as the air-cooled engine stands in the way of their potential in terms of performance and emissions.
 

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The California Highway Patrol (CHIPS) has finished evaluation and they're migrating from the RT to the Connies. One of the main factors, I hear, was the maintenance cost, and in particular the cost of clutch replacement. Higher on their priority than top-end speed has been low speed maneuverability, and one of the main obstacles in the way of the big Kaw was their lock-to-lock steering.
Your information WAS correct. However, the Kawasaki dealer voided the contract, and so now the bidding process starts over. The CHP academy has 50 of the C14P's, which is all that will be received, until the contract gets awarded again.
 

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Thai government has purchased 20 units of GTL for Royal House. These are specially customized as per request. Bikes will be used to escort members of Thailand Royal Family. I was given this information by local BMW sales representative.
 
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