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So here is the results: Clearly more than 5 mm, more like 8mm
Wow! That's absurd!

Based on the clearance of ~1.5mm I have with a 200mm wide Road 5GT, for a tyre to have (say) 7.5mm clearance on my bike it would have to be no more than 188mm wide, which is less than the specified section width of 190mm. Furthermore, the maximum in service width for the Angel GT, as posted earlier in this thread, is specified as 203mm.

Don't suppose you can get a measurement of the width across the tyre at its widest point, can you?
 

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Need to get me a caliper to do that, maybe I can do that tomorrow.
 

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So Michelin knows there is a problem but refuses to take any action except not recommending the tire for the K1600 any more. At least Revzilla is kind of standing up, they at least offered me store credit if I return the tire at their cost...better than nothing from Michelin.
Michelin does recognize this as a problem and is no longer recommending the PR5GT for any K1600 model.

If you call Michelin and get through to their motorcycle support section, they should give you a case number. I had my PR5GT replaced with a PR4GT today by my dealer at no cost to me.
 

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So my dealer said Michelin says it's just cosmetic so when they refund us we'll refund you. In the mean time we don't have a tire for you.
 

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So my dealer said Michelin says it's just cosmetic so when they refund us we'll refund you. In the mean time we don't have a tire for you.
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Pulled out a caliper and measured the Pirelli Angel GT I (A) at the shoulder (rib) of the tire at 190.68 mm with stock tire inflation and stock 5.5 '' rim. Pirelli production plant in Germany. A few pics for your perusal.
And no, I don't exceed the safe lean angle on that tire so that the rib is still intact.
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A measurement of my 4GT with a stack of hotel keys, shows 4.08 mm clearance. I have a set of 5GT on the way to me now from Revzilla - which I ordered before I found this thread. I will mount them soon and report the results here.
 

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Pulled out a caliper and measured the Pirelli Angel GT I (A) at the shoulder (rib) of the tire at 190.68 mm
Many thanks for taking the trouble to get the measurements. Very interesting how much narrower the Angel GT is than it's quoted maximum width in service.
 

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It may be a lot wider on a 6‘‘ rim
 
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The rear rim on my MY2019 GT Sport is 6" wide. I thought all models ran the same rim widths?
My mistake, stock 6’’ wide.
 
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A measurement of my 4GT with a stack of hotel keys, shows 4.08 mm clearance. I have a set of 5GT on the way to me now from Revzilla - which I ordered before I found this thread. I will mount them soon and report the results here.
OK Mounted the 5GT today. stack of hotel keys showed same clearance as the 4GT, so I think I am good to go.

Here is a view of the swingarm clearance from the top looking down:




 

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Mine is rubbing and has removed the finish on the swing arm. I've contacted my dealer and they're in the process of working with the Michelin distributor on the issue. I should know something next week.
 

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View attachment 141434 This is the rear of my Road 5 GT. (190/55 17) on my '18 GTL. The tire has about 5,000 miles and I'm just noticing that it rubs the drive shaft casing. That clean flat black strip was raised when it was new. Anyone else have this going on?
View attachment 141434 This is the rear of my Road 5 GT. (190/55 17) on my '18 GTL. The tire has about 5,000 miles and I'm just noticing that it rubs the drive shaft casing. That clean flat black strip was raised when it was new. Anyone else have this going on?
I hope this helps
 

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View attachment 141434 This is the rear of my Road 5 GT. (190/55 17) on my '18 GTL. The tire has about 5,000 miles and I'm just noticing that it rubs the drive shaft casing. That clean flat black strip was raised when it was new. Anyone else have this going on?
View attachment 141434 This is the rear of my Road 5 GT. (190/55 17) on my '18 GTL. The tire has about 5,000 miles and I'm just noticing that it rubs the drive shaft casing. That clean flat black strip was raised when it was new. Anyone else have this going on?
Hi Mad Max. I just had some Road 5 GTs installed and have around 200 miles on them. No evidence of rubbing. I will be watching this though and keeping inflation to the 42 lbs. max.
 

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Good luck, but keep an eye on it. Mine burned off some of the swingarm before I pulled it. Probably going back to the PR4 when the Pirelli that I replaced it with is done.
 

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WOW! I installed a Michelin 5 GT about 500 miles ago. After reading this, I went out in the garage and took a couple pictures and a video. Video is blurry but below is the best photos from the ones I took. It is really hard to see the exact perspective so I got a feeler gauge out, it measured 1.5mm between the swing arm and the tire. Which is very close. You can see some dark material like something has been rubbing on the swing arm, but the nub is still on the side wall. This is also the backside of the rotation, so it may be worse on the front side of the swing arm. I suspect that flex, heat and sidewall deflection might allow my tire to occasional contact the swing arm.




And I am sure this is a GT because the shop accidentally installed a standard Road 5 the first time and I had to take it back and get them to change it to a GT.
On witch bike this tire was installed ? K1600GTL or GT or B and the year of the bike ? Thank's
 

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On witch bike this tire was installed ? K1600GTL or GT or B and the year of the bike ? Thank's
I realize this is a long thread. I had stated it was on my 2014 GTL-Exclusive.
 
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