International Man of Mystery
Any news on the subject from the OP?
Your post on the software update fiasco really concerned me. My '13 GT runs so very fabulous that I don't want anything changed or altered. So recently when my bike was in for the fuel pump recall I asked the dealer if they automatically check for and update the software too. They said yes, they do check and update the software so I told them "please do not check for software updates". I'd be interested in hearing what everybody else on the forum thinks about software updates. Am I being paranoid? Or should I let them check and install the latest software even though the bike couldn't run better. I feel like "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".Sorry for the delay..
Basically no updates. Last thing we did was replace the final drive with the used low mileage part... NO CHANGE WHATSOEVER.
I then rode my normal commute, same time of day/speed etc, and got around 33mpg where before I would get approx 40.
Clearly something is still very wrong.
So I spent a significant amount of time on the phone with BMW corporate, walking them through everything that occurred and it boils down to- there's nothing they can do, they can't revert to the older software, the bike is out of warranty, etc etc. Not helpful whatsoever.
I'm completely at a loss.
I'm in California, so I'm running 91 octane premium. At this point it's a fresh tank from shell, so should be decent quality fuel. I saw your post about adaptations and we did reset them again at the dealer.what fuel age and grade is the bike running ?
BMW engine map updates are tiny, almost imperceptible "fixes", I don't believe, IF mechanically sound with correct valve timing the bike will not settle down to normal with the right fuel and a bit of a run under its belt. Issue is most likley a fuel grade or an adaption rebuild issue - not sure if you came across my post #40
1) If the software writes a new engine MAP the bikes adaptations should be wiped out (as they were only pertinent to the OLD map) and it needs to rebuild its adaptions
2) It ONLY saves the rebuilding adaptions after the bike has been through all gears and turned off with the key for more than 10 seconds
3) It rebuilds a better, more suitable set of adaptions if its allowed to build it up over time
4) If you force it before these are suitable, it will err towards a fail safe less optimal set of adaptions
5) No one ever tells you this
6) 500 miles of sensible use with good petrol and constant saves is the right way
7) BMW can flash a bike back to the old software - but only after puma get involved, and only if they agree there's an error in the software (which is very rare)
I do have a suspicion the dealers can make the older bike's run funny with software updates..... its what I've been chasing for 4 years after they did my 2007 GS in 2018I'm in California, so I'm running 91 octane premium. At this point it's a fresh tank from shell, so should be decent quality fuel. I saw your post about adaptations and we did reset them again at the dealer.
Will the adaptations continue to improve as I ride the bike more or should I reset them and start over again?
Not anymore, at this point they said they've done everything they can and that's that..Edit: corrected the dealership name.
RCunneen is Escondido still addressing this?
Good point. It might just be set to "Demo" mode.just had a thought - there's a nanny running in mode that can be enabled on BMs so you can't wreck it before the first service - worth checking this isn't on ???
motoscan app can usually show and switch this mode - not sure about the K1600 - coz the cluster is so odd on these - stuff is supported by not sure if this feature is getatable - checked mine to switch from children's mode on the clock to grown up 24hr mode, and u get big red warning its a bit flaky, which no other bikes get - and you can't enable tyre temps on the K1600 either, which is nasty....
Sounds like cam timing to me. Maybe they messed with it during valve adjustment......
There is no all models all years software update. They are bullshitting you in a major way. Do you remember which color your neutral indicator light was? What is it now? I am asking because there was one big update years ago for bikes all the way to 2015 that affected fueling and ignition to protect the engine from detonation damage to the pistons. The neutral indicator light 'N' changed from beige to green. I had a 2014 that went through this update with no noticeable changes to performance.
And document with notes and photos.If this was me you I’d pull the valve cover and check timing; e.g. check at cam tensioner that chain hasn’t jumped a tooth or 2…
might be different these days but I expect notConcerning software updates on out of warranty bikes: during my last visit to the dealership around May 1st '22, on my brand new to me in Mar '18, '18GT, the response I got to the question about "any updates available or do you only know when you hook it up?" was..