Wow thanks I'm going to try this



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Thanks for being a super-nerd sir!
Appreciate your knowledge.

 

@USMC G2 I might be wrong but I think there is a limit on the number or waypoints that Google maps allow. The BMW App has a limit of 50 waypoints.

Can I ask when you follow your procedure on the BMW App do you get waypoints or just a track?

Thanks

 

GM does limit waypoints to 10, natively. However, there are ways around that limitation.

 

DavidMcK,

You are correct - Google maps limits your waypoints to 10...I have not tried using the BMW app to set up more than three waypoints. I just like using my computer to see the big picture vs. my iPhone. I'll set up five or six waypoints on google maps and then transferring it to the BMW app and let you know what I get.

Semper Fi

 

DavidMcK,

You are correct - Google maps limits your waypoints to 10...I have not tried using the BMW app to set up more than three waypoints. I just like using my computer to see the big picture vs. my iPhone. I'll set up five or six waypoints on google maps and then transferring it to the BMW app and let you know what I get.

Semper Fi

Hi Semper, if you want more e.g. more waypoints, streetview, curvy roads, a library of routes and lots more you should check out MyRouteApp. You can put a Google Maps layer over your map and it integrates with the BMW App either with showing waypoints or a track.

 

David,

The waypoints show up on the BMW app...

 

@USMC G2

Excellent, that way you can modify the route if you want to on the App, if it was a track you can't.

 

Affirmative D.

Semper Fi

 

Using Google Maps if you click on a gas station and it has the name of the gas station in it (or any waypoint) the Mapstogps will give an error. If you zoom in and click on the street in front of the station it will work.

 

Nerd to the max - love it. Will definitely use!

 

I use Base Camp the Garmin app as it work seamlessly with the Nav VI which is also just a Garmin made for BMW and branded as such. Once you have your settings for the GPS correct as you like. I always plan my routes with way-points and never travel straight from point A to B as there is always something I want to see and places to visit off route between point A and B.

 

Basecamp on my desktop and my Nav on the bike for me.
Unlimited waypoints, can save as many routes as you want, can share routes with others, can manipulate routes if you change your mind, simple route making, one step download to the Nav.

 

Greetings,

I apologize if this is old information...however, if not, I hope it helps.

Go to Google Maps and plan your route...I like having waypoints (again, left over from aviation days). For example: Reseda...Thousand Oaks...Oxnard...Ventura...Santa Barbara.

Once you create your trip with waypoints. Select the entire internet address (URL) and copy it. Go to mapstogpx.com. Paste your trip. Press "Let's Go" and it will automatically download to your computer. Drag the downloaded GPX file to your desktop and then send the file to your iPhone. Open the email, save the file to a folder on your iPhone.

Open the BMW Motorrad App and import the file. Bingo...works like a charm.

I like planning trips on my computer (larger screen, keyboard, etc).

Semper Fi

Nice write up. I'm a big fan of Google Maps. And even though I use Basecamp for physical route creation, I use Google Maps to assist with planning and to verify my final Basecamp route. Your documented procedure will work well for relatively simple routes, but there are a few challenges:

1) Mapstogpx.com does not support converting routes created with Google My Maps. The developer confirms this in his blog with "Currently my tool is not compatible with the 'My Maps' feature in Google and I don't foresee adding support due to the fact that you must be logged into 'My Maps' to access your data". My Maps allows you to create documentation layers and build a more detailed map with hard POI Waypoints (Restaurants, Gas Stations, etc) which you include as the route is created. It also allows you to save routes for future use within Google itself.

2) Yes, the 10 Waypoint limit can be expanded with a technique that allows you to concatenate multiple Google route URLs. But it's manual, a pain, and can be error prone. However, I've used the technique and it does works.

3) A feature I find almost indispensable in building any route is being able to create waypoints that are simply shaping points. They don't provide notification of arrival and are mostly invisible, meaning they don't clutter the route. I'm not aware of how to do this in Google Maps.

For many, these limitations are not show stoppers in creating Google Maps. However, if you need something more robust, you can use a commercial app like MyRouteApp for route creation. Pick your poison according to your requirements.

 

3) A feature I find almost indispensable in building any route is being able to create waypoints that are simply shaping points. They don't provide notification of arrival and are mostly invisible, meaning they don't clutter the route. I'm not aware of how to do this in Google Maps.

From my (admittedly limited) experimentation with the Connected Ride app it doesn't support shaping points at all, just "hard" waypoints.

If I export a gpx file from a Basecamp-created route that contains a mixture of waypoints and shaping points and then import it into the app then the shaping points are all lost. Worse still, the waypoint sequence for the created route isn't preserved either, as the app's import routine sorts them alphabetically, ascending. The workaround is to only use waypoints in the route and to prefix them with a numeric to ensure the sequence is preserved when it's imported. This is utterly ridiculous and completely unworkable for anyone (like me) with a library of routes that reuses waypoints because the waypoint prefix has to change according to where it exists in any particular route's sequence.

 

“concatenate” you IT guys use some high falutting words. But I’m sure some of my machining phrases are lost on you too.

 

If the phrase "slap them thare URL's together" does it for you, I'll oblige.

 

One of my rally planning spreadsheets includes a concatenate function to merge the name and point value before importing into BaseCamp. 🤓

 

@st13phil Phil you will have to take the big "Pill" and move away from Basecamp. When you sell your Garmin you will no longer get Basecamp updates and as you know Basecamp does not easily integrate with the BMW App. My advise it to try MyRouteApp, its much better (well in most ways). When I moved from Basecamp this is the problem I had:

BTW hears a funny for ya all, to get routes exported in the right way from MyRouteApp you have to export it as a "HD Boombox export". You will get waypoints in the correct order but no shaping points.

 

My advise it to try MyRouteApp

I've already watched the tutorials and will definitely give it a try, together with the BMW Connected App, however...

Phil you will have to take the big "Pill" and move away from Basecamp.

That's by no means a certainty. I have a tour to Italy with friends that I'm leading planned for later this year and I'm not convinced that the BMW Connected App is really up to it (too many tales of random disconnects, delays in connecting after stops, inability to prevent automatic route recalculation if you stray off the pre-planned route, etc.), plus I'm not looking forward to the potential for shenanigans faffing about with getting a phone in and out of the bike to deal with any issues at the roadside if (when) its raining. I may well mount a Zumo XT on my new bike so I can guide us with 100% confidence in the results.

 

@st13phil I really should do a video on this, i.e. how I moved from Basecamp to MyRouteApp and how it works with the BMW App, it works quite well, but............................................

I have a plan B, from my earliest days touring I have had a plan B.

My plan B is an app called Co-Pilot and I have used it for say 12 years or more. I have toured Europe, Canada and the USA with it. I can plan my trips at home and when I arrive I put my phone in a holder and stick it to the windscreen of a car, I have maps of North America and Europe all stored on my phone, no internet connection. I don't know how much it costs now, when I got it I think I paid £20 for all of Europe and the same for North America.

So, when I am going on a tour I have all my routes on the BMW App and all of them on Co-Pilot, it uses a file format called TRP but I use ITN converter to convert from GPX to TRP. its easy and it works.

Then this is what I do, and the phone is charged from an adaptor on the bike:

BTW its 100 times better than the BMW App, you can pay for a traffic subscription, think its about £10 for a year, the map layout is better with layers etc. Its got proper lane management etc. etc.

 

I have a plan B, from my earliest days touring I have had a plan B.

Always wise to have a Plan B, but in all the years (15 or so) I've been using Garmin navigation devices I can honestly say that the closest I came to needing to deploy my own Plan B was when my original Nav VI had the "ghost finger" problem while on a tour in Scotland last year. Fortunately, it finished its "fit" after an hour or so and was fine for the rest of the trip, but the irony that it was a BMW-badged version of an otherwise 100% reliable device that almost let me down was not lost on me.

 

is there anyway to share google map destination to bmw connected app??

 

The only way I've found to do it, is to drop a pin, copy the long / lat on maps and paste in search on motorrad app as it supports long/lat searching.
E. G. 51.4838688, -0.6048311

 

Well I got to the part where it says "save the file to a folder on your phone" I just copied it...and tried to find how to import the file after opening the Motorrad app...no luck? Any tips?
Jim

 

Well I got to the part where it says "save the file to a folder on your phone" I just copied it...and tried to find how to import the file after opening the Motorrad app...no luck? Any tips?
Jim

As a test I grabbed one of my Basecamp gpx files and emailed it to myself. When I opened that email on my iPhone I touched the down arrow in the blue square box and got the pop up shown in the photo attached. I then touched the Save to Download arrow. This puts it in a "place" on your phone that the BMW Connected App will look when you do an import in the Connected app.

Out of curiosity you can find that file location on your iPhone by finding the app pictured in my second photo on your iPhone. It should be an app that came already installed on your phone. By opening that app I found the gpx file I downloaded as stated above along with other items stored there that I have no idea how they got there. One of smart phones many mysteries.

 

Thanks Jim, it worked…I now have 3 routes I created using the HD free app, copied the .gpx files and mailed them to my phone, opened them in ‘Files’ and selected ‘send to’ Motorride App and bingo, there they are!
I’ll do a search for another file converter to change the Google Maps ‘copy file’ to a .gpx and try that next.
jim