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Carpuride on the K1600 - Plug and Play

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#1 · (Edited)
I now have a working mount that allows us to install the Carpuride into the factory mount for the Nav V/VI. The device is powered through the mount once installed. The Carpuride allows you to basically see and do anything you would on your phone, but without having your phone mounted and exposed to vibration and the elements. It does this by supporting both Apple Car Play and Android Auto. It allows access to your phone apps, like streaming music, google maps etc. Audio is Bluetooth from the device to your helmet.

This is my working prototype installed on my bike.

Here is the Carpuride with their ball mount removed. The mount supports the anti-vibration pad as well as the weather seal wall.

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Here is my mount installed on the Carpuride
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Here it is installed on my GTLE running Google Maps from my phone


The entire touch screen is visible with no bike mods
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#114 ·
Thought I was on to something yesterday. I remembered that the Cardo Edge can pair two BT devices (i.e. phone and GPS) so I paired the phone first then paired the Carpuride as the GPS on the Cardo. My thinking was the phone pairing would control the phone and allow all Cardo features and the "GPS" would simply play what being broadcast from the Carpuride.

Everything paired up fine but doesn't work any better. Seems like the Cardo knows when it's playing the GPS audio and disables all of the controls since they aren't used there.

Anyway, Carpuride support sent me a new FW to try. According to them, "The latest software has added a connection method, that is, the cell phone can connect to the Carpuride device and the headset at the same time. In this connection, the phone first connects to the device via Bluetooth, and after successfully connecting to the device, the device will automatically disconnect from Bluetooth, but still maintains the connection with the phone, and then the phone can connect to the headset via Bluetooth to play music and answer phone calls, etc. on the car stereo."

Will report back.
 
#116 · (Edited)
Edit [changed to FAT32 like they sent me instead of ExFAT like they told me so it will update]

Here's what they sent me. Keeps failing - as soon as the MPEGBOOT upgrade dialog pops up it crashes the unit (never gets the update started). I'm using a 4GB Micro SD card (update is 78MB).

Please use a PC Windows computer to copy the latest version of the software ISPBOOOT.BIN to the TF Card, power on the Carpuride 702 unit, and wait for 10 seconds to display the operation interface. After inserting the TF Card, the "upgrade MPEGBOOTI" will pop up. Check √ -> Wait for the upgrade progress bar to reach 100% -> Update success and pull out the TF Card.



Need to pay attention to these situations.
1. Only one software can be copied to the TF Card. If there are other files, it will cause interference and cause the upgrade to fail. It is recommended to format the TF card with exFat FAT32 as the file system before copying the software to the TF card.
2. The file name cannot be changed or added characters, it must be the same as the attachment.
3. The memory of the TF Card does not exceed 32GB.
4. Please do not remove the TF Card during the upgrade in case of damage to the device. Thank you.
 
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#117 ·
Not in the least bit surprised things don't necessarily work perfectly with Carpuride. Same as with any other cheapo electronics that are out there, such as car head units and such. When they work properly, they're nice, but hiccups here and there are guaranteed.

Even though I haven't used mine yet, I still think I should be able to get some use out of mine, alternating between it and my Nav 6. The potential was worth the couple hundred dollar risk to me. 🤷‍♂️
 
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#121 ·
First ride…. Paired my iPhone 15 to the Cap unit. Turned on my Shoei Neotech/SRL which paired with my phone. Used Libby on the Cap to fire up my book on tape. Rode.

I had to do some monkeying around with the volume, probably obvious but was able fix it withought thinking about it so, meh.

My total configuration time was under a minute.

I will say that my Cap units display is off by 1/8” but that’s a manufacturing issue. Not sure I’ll bother to replace it.
 
#123 ·
Followed all of Cap's support instructions and cannot get the 702 to FW update. It displays the upgrade prompt and then immediately shuts down requiring an unplug to reset. They are shipping me an upgrade TF card to try so we'll see what that does. Assume it's coming from China.
 
#124 ·
Thanks @coyotek! I just placed the order on your site. I'm still on the fence about the W702 but since you made the mount so modular I realized it's perfect to use with anything requiring a Ram mount with the ability to wire in 12V! Really like the way you designed it.
 
#125 ·
Yes, it will work with almost any device you want to mount and power. Honestly, I feel the 7" display is too big but a lot of guys really want it. I haven't had time yet for detailed instructions but I suspect you'll figure it out just fine. Any questions, just message me. Thanks.
 
#126 · (Edited)
I'm hoping someone can answer this question. Normally, I like to use the motorcycle speakers for listening to music from my phone, using a usb powered blue tooth receiver that also has a wire that plugs into the audio jack and set the bike audio to Aux. If I wanted to install a capuride, and use Android Auto, can the capuride be connected to the phone and blue tooth receiver at the same time and have the output through the speakers?
 
#132 ·
OK, got the update TF card from China. They told me to format mine with ExFAT but sent me a FAT32 card. Oh well. It flashed the unit and it has a slightly different UI. Set up the phone and Cardo again and - no love. The difference is that it outputs the audio through the BT Trans output instead of the AA BT output which in reality doesn't change a thing. The Cardo BT functions other than volume still do not work and while I was able to use voice to make a call, I could barely hear the other side and they could not hear me at all. I tried every option there and no sound from me went through.

I've documented all of this back to Carp support so we'll see if they can make any progress. If not, I'm probably returning it. This is exactly what I wanted, but the inability to take calls on top of having to push a touchscreen button to pause music just won't fly for me.
 
#133 ·
Some success!

Carp support got back to me with the revised user's manual for the new firmware. Looks like they are rolling it out as production now. You can also see the revised UI in the photos. The thing not well documented is that when it starts a popup appears that says something like "audio is played through BT Trans." So I initially paired the helmet to that with no luck. What you have to do is pair up AA (or CarPlay, I assume) and then go to the audio output app on the main screen (#3 on page 3) and then choose iplay/Auto. It will restart AA and now the media/calls are routed from the phone to the helmet. In my case (AA with Cardo Edge) everything now works as intended - volume, media controls, etc.

My one sticking point is that the Google Assistant is not getting helmet audio properly. When I say "Hey Google" through the helmet mic, it prompts Google Assistant with a full volume (painful) ding and the phone and 702 screen show it's waiting but nothing I say is picked up. It then cancels audio input more quickly than normal - like it's been cancelled. If I touch the Google mic icon on the 702 the same thing happens where the audio is not routing through to the assistant. If I manually open the Assistant on the phone it does work properly.

That's a small workaround such that I've cancelled my return of the unit and will keep working with it.

If you have a 702 and want to flash it to the new firmware - it's here. Just note that you have to format your TF card to FAT32.
 
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#135 ·
Hey @coyotek - any suggestions for vibration? I've been on a few rides with the 702 now and notice it vibrates a fair amount. Was wondering if putting a rubber coating on the two Ram mount balls (like the actual Ram versions have) would settle things down? Would need to be judicious on the 702 end as the ball mount is also the heatsink.
 
#144 ·
I found out today you can play Carpuride music through the bike's speakers. There is a separate connection button for this setup. After you have your phone and headset paired, you press the Audio Output button to setup the BT music link to your BT dongle plugged into the bike's Aux port.

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#171 ·
You need a Carpuride W502 and this mount adapter for plug and play installation.